Hello Everybody

Another reason why we should stay with sans serif fonts. They are easier to 
read when you are quickly referencing to a user guide. My mail program uses 
sans serif and it is so easy to read.

Regards

Peter Schofield
Sent from my iPad Mini

> On 4 Jun 2020, at 17:04, Dave <dbar...@posteo.net> wrote:
> 
> I keep forgetting LO lists only use outdated teletype formatting, so I
> am repeating my previous post in quill pen and parchment style:
> 
> Hi Peter,
> 
> The original 6.x template has/had:
> 30 Applied Paragraph Styles + Default
> =============================
> Caption
> Code
> Contents 1
> Contents 2
> Contents 3
> Contents Heading
> Definition Term
> Figure
> Footer
> Guide Name
> Heading 1
> Heading 2
> Heading 3
> Heading Caution
> Heading Note
> Heading Tip
> List
> List 1
> List 2
> Numbering 1
> Numbering 2
> Numbering 3
> Page Break
> Subtitle
> Table Contents
> Table Heading
> Text Body
> Text Body Indent
> Text Note
> Title
> 
> 6 Applied Character Styles + Default
> ============================
> Code
> Emphasis
> Index Link
> Internet Link
> Keystroke
> Strong Emphasis
> 
> I think Jean would also like one styled as LOList 1_TextBody to assist
> with the creating of list items under some circumstances.
> 
> Which styles would you like to see removed?
> 
> Originally there was only one 6.x template in the Nextcloud "Contributor
> Resources" folder, but for some unknown reason folks kept creating
> additional editions with their own modifications. Hopefully, the Docs
> Team can agree on using just the one 7.x template and save save
> unnecessary extra work for the person compiling the final book for
> publication. However, this seems unlikely since  there are already two
> versions of the proposed 7.x template in the Nextcloud "Contributor
> Resources" folder.
> 
> Regards
> Dave
> 
>> On 04/06/2020 14:42, Peter Schofield wrote:
>> Hello
>> 
>> There is nothing wrong with LO version 6 template, except the number of 
>> styles. The only thing that needs doing is serious look at the number of 
>> styles and the question should be asked is do we need the all.
>> 
>> The version 6 template does need to be updated to match what is happening in 
>> version 7, if necessary.
>> 
>> Mixing sans serif and serif never looks good in a user guide. It is best to 
>> keep to one style of font. Sans serif is good and it matches what a user 
>> would normally see on their computer screen when using LibreOffice.
>> 
>> There need to be only one of the version 7 template. At the moment there are 
>> too many copies of the version 6 template floating around and which one do 
>> you use?
>> 
>> Regards
>> Peter Schofield
>> psaut...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>>> On 4 Jun 2020, at 13:37, DaveB <user....@posteo.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I will not be joining today's meeting, but since my name still appears
>>> in some of the proposed template's comments I will make some observations:
>>> 
>>> * Is there really any important reason to make major changes to the
>>> existing 6.x template, or is this just change for the sake of change?
>>> 
>>> * I agree with Steve's comments below. In my view the mix of sans serif
>>> and serif fonts used give the template a somewhat messy jumbled
>>> appearance and adds nothing to the readability.
>>> 
>>> * Why are the guides (the software?) going to be given the title of
>>> "Community Edition"? Did I miss the announcement about the commercial or
>>> some other edition?
>>> 
>>> * My view is that unless there is some technical usability improvement
>>> that can be made to the existing 6.x template, the 7.x template should
>>> only include a few cosmetic changes in line with the software's PR
>>> version number change.
>>> 
>>> My 2¢ worth.
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> Dave
>>> 
>>> On 04/06/2020 11:25, Steve Fanning wrote:
>>>> Hi Olivier,
>>>> 
>>>> Some personal thoughts on your proposed LO7 template, in advance of the
>>>> team meeting to be held later.
>>>> 
>>>> I think that switching the Text Body paragraph style from a sans serif
>>>> font to a serif font is an important decision which shouldn’t be made
>>>> without proper consideration of its impact. We certainly shouldn’t
>>>> commit to that change just because it distinguishes LO7 from LO6. Will
>>>> users of the guides find them more or less readable and attractive after
>>>> the font change?If the team decide to use the serif font for the Text
>>>> Body style, would it be better to use the same font family for the
>>>> character styles? This would avoid mixing sans serif and serif
>>>> characters in a single sentence.On the first page of the template, I
>>>> preferred the chapter number, chapter title and chapter subtitle lines
>>>> to be left justified, as in the LO6 template.
>>>> Regards,
>>>> 
>>>> Steve
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ------ Original Message ------
>>>> From: "Olivier Hallot" <olivier.hal...@libreoffice.org>
>>>> To: "LibreOffice Documentation" <documentation@global.libreoffice.org>
>>>> Sent: 02/06/2020 20:51:20
>>>> Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Proposal for 7.x guide template
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Team
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have created a template candidate for our next 7.0 Guide books
>>>>> available in the cloud at
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/minfbKWnn6XQkXq
>>>>> 
>>>>> This is work in progress and comment are welcome. I deliberately changed
>>>>> some styles...
>>>>> 
>>>>> * Changed text body font to serif
>>>>> * Deleted unused custom styles in template file
>>>>> * rebuilt the heading style hierarchy where headings inherit from
>>>>> Heading paragraph style
>>>>> * New logo/banner on top of chapter
>>>>> * Page margins inner/outer values to allow binding.
>>>>> * New Tip/Note/Warning icons/background (from Help)
>>>>> * No new style, no style rename
>>>>> * Suggestion for Heading colors based on Module colors
>>>>> * Reworked number & bullet list position settings.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Glad to discuss items here or in the Team meeting this Thursday June
>>>>> 4th, 18:00 UTC
>>>>> 
>>>>> Kind regards
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Olivier Hallot
>>>>> LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator
>>>>> Comunidade LibreOffice
>>>>> Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00
>>>>> http://tdf.io/joinus
> 
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