Tony,
 
How is it remotely possible for a computer program to know if your  
confirmations are on the same card?  You have three bands to submit from  P5.  
Are they 
on the same label (need to be sorted last in your  submission), or are they 
on three separate cards (sorted with the single band  groups)?  Unless Paul 
were to write a brand new routine, and the users were  willing to track this 
stuff, it's absolutely impossible for the program to do  this.  (I'm certainly 
no 
expert on other logging programs, but I'd  seriously doubt that any of the 
others can do this task either.)
 
As to forms/lists being used, you will absolutely have to have the  forms for 
field checking.  How else is there a record to take back to the  DXCC Desk?  
If you mail your cards to Newington, the Qs are entered  directly, negating 
the need for the form.
 
73,
Steve
 
In a message dated 2/16/2005 7:29:01 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Thanks  for all the replies. They are appreciated.

I guess DX4WIN has never had  the ability to sort cards with more than 1 QSO 
for DXCC submission. They  need to address this issue in the next revision. 

I was chastised at  the Orlando Hamfest because of the cards being out of 
order. 

Bill  Moore, ARRL DX Branch Manager, was sitting in the next chair checking  
another submission he said and I quote "If DX4WIN does not want to follow  
the 
ARRL procedures to submit cards then we will not allow their  submissions." 
The 
other ham was also using DX4WIN. He also was told to  properly sort the 
cards.  

I bought the program to log my QSO's  and also do the submissions.  By not 
properly sorting the multiple  QSO's on the DXCC submission list is useless.  
Exporting and  resorting the QSO's is what I expected the program to do.  

On  both of my DXCC submissions the card checker DID USE THE LIST.  Even Bill 
 
Moore used the list. Those trying to be helpful telling me the list is not  
used please call the ARRL DX desk 860-594-0234 and speak to Bill  yourself.  
The 
ARRL Website has a two page DXCC submission form, DXCC  AWARD APPLICATION and 
DXCC Record Sheet. If they weren't going to use them  I doubt that they would 
still be on the website.  

Both  checkers said "follow the list when submitting!"  "The cards must be in 
 
this, pointing to the top paragraph of the DXCC Record Sheet, order. First  
come the single cards in order then the multiple QSO's cards. The multiple  
cards 
go to the bottom of the pile." 

Tony  N2MFT
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