Hi group ! I was a big fan of DX4WIN for many, many years until I tried using it to prepare a custom award submission. Unfortunately, I found so many problems there that it would take several pages to describe them. Unfortunately, none of my questions to the support desk or to the group were answered, with the exception of Jim, AD1C, but we have not completed solving only one of these issues . The absence of a continent in the main menu is very inconvenient for calculating statistics. Among other problems, it is very annoying not to be able to count the number of unique call signs, both in general and by using a sorting criteria . It is also impossible to get an ADIF export from an alphabetically sorted log in the same sequence - this only works for CSV. To implement the above functions, I have to import the ADIF log into other programs, even a freeware ones, but which successfully cope with the tasks set. I’ll be ready to continue using this nice product and pay for upgrades if I see a real support instead of just adding of FT8 etc QSO modes and some minor changes in V.10 for $30 ! Best 73's! Dima, UA3AGW >Понедельник, 20 ноября 2023, 20:50 +03:00 от John Pritt ><radiot...@nycap.rr.com>: > >I absolutely love DX4Win and have since the day it was released. For my >logging needs it is totally functional. I also think that the support is >awesome thanks to Paul, Jim, Guy and the rest of the users. > >John (N1JP) > > > > >> On Nov 20, 2023, at 12:28, Tim moore < redval...@gmail.com > wrote: >> >> David Perry (N4QS) certainly doesn't speak for all of us. I like the >> product just as it is and I think the support and updates are excellent as >> they exist today. I fully understand some may find issues with the product >> as it is, but they don't speak for or represent all of us . And of >> course, you're never going to please all the folks all the time in this >> diverse hobby. >> >> But since you wanted folks to speak up.....I am. I vote we continue as >> things are maintained today. Not that mine...or anyone else's opinions >> really carry any significant weight. The owners should of course do as >> they see fit to do. After all, it's their product to sell and maintain. >> Those who don't like the product can find another product more to their >> liking. Those of us pleased with the product....can continue using it. >> >> I could have/use any product on the market out there....and I chose this >> one >> ....with good reason. I like it just as it is..... >> >> As an Engineer with 45+ years in the IT industry and quite a few years >> working in software development, I appreciate the time and effort it takes >> to develop and maintain a product. And I have been involved with the >> effort of trying to keep a myriad of customers with diverse desires and >> requirements satisfied. It's a daunting task. I'll save for another day >> my discussion on Problem Reports (PRs) and Deficiency Reports (DRs) and >> Known Problems and Workarounds (KP&Ws) and Configuration Control Boards >> (CCBs) and racking and stacking customer desires/complaints. >> >> K4TK >> Tim >> >>> On Mon, Nov 20, 2023, 11:05 AM David Perry, N4QS < n...@vci.net > wrote: >>> >>> To all DX4WIN users: >>> >>> We really need Paul to do something. He promised the databases would be >>> available on the next update, but that was four years ago. I have been >>> asking for full integration with WSJT-X for years to no avail. >>> >>> This is a great program with a very active user base, but very little >>> commitment from Paul. I wonder if Paul would be willing to sell his >>> interest in the product to a group of users. We might all consider buying >>> him out and then forming our own development team and support group. We >>> could even make it open source to encourage more developers to get >>> involved. >>> >>> Paul, I think it is about time that you let us know what your future plans >>> entail. It is not fair to your loyal users to keep them in the dark and >>> not >>> provide any further development. We all scratch our heads and talk among >>> ourselves, but we just cannot figure out why you no longer want to support >>> your fine program. Are you bored? Have health problems? Lost interest? >>> >>> Bottom line, what would it take to buy you out? I would be happy to lead a >>> user group to see if we can do just that. I would not do it for any profit >>> motive, and my time and money would be provided for the benefit of all. >>> >>> In fact, if you were willing to talk I would suggest that we form a >>> 501(c)(3) to make it a non-profit venture. I personally think it would be >>> fun for the users to take ownership in the application. The biggest issue >>> is can we find users who have the technical background to support the >>> product? I have no idea what programming languages and database software >>> you use to power DX4WIN, but whatever you use is working great. Would you >>> want to continue to provide overall technical leadership or would you >>> prefer >>> to retire? All of these questions and issues would have to be discussed. >>> >>> Can you project your future revenue streams over the next three years? Can >>> you provide actual revenue over the past three years? If so, I am sure we >>> can monetize your financial interest in DX4WIN as it stands today. You >>> have >>> a great product that has stood the test of time over 25 years. I am sure >>> you would like to see it continue well into the future. >>> >>> I am a former partner with Deloitte & Touche and for the last 30 years have >>> owned and operated three family businesses. I am now retired, but I have >>> the background to help in such a transaction. My sole interest is to see >>> DX4WIN become more actively developed and supported for benefit of the >>> general ham radio community. >>> >>> Paul, please let me know via the reflector or privately if the time is >>> right >>> for you to discuss future options. >>> >>> I would also invite any other members of the user community to express >>> their >>> interest in joining me in forming a group to keep DX4WIN alive and as a >>> legacy to its founder. Jim, AD1C, would definitely have to be one of the >>> founding user group members. All if favor, say aye! >>> >>> I am sure that if we formed a user group, we would have many users who >>> would >>> want to volunteer their services to help with various aspects of >>> distribution, user support and development of DX4WIN going forward. We >>> would need volunteers to upgrade and support the website. Help with new >>> user installations. Help with ongoing product development, etc. >>> >>> If Paul can provide us with a price, we can then determine the best way to >>> raise the funds to buy him out. We could ask for donations. We could also >>> continue to charge modest amounts for new installations and updates -- but >>> only until the initial buyout amount has been paid off. Thereafter, we >>> might explore a donation based model just to raise enough money to pay for >>> ongoing administrative expenses -- if any. Again, our user group could be >>> creative and flexible as we work together to evolve the product overtime. >>> I >>> do not think this would be that big an effort to organize as long as Paul >>> thinks the time is right. Ultimately, it all depends on what Paul wants to >>> do. >>> >>> Paul, in the interest of your many devoted users, is this something that we >>> can begin to discuss with you? >>> >>> 73, >>> >>> Dave, N4QS >>> >>> n...@vci.net >>> >>> Cell: 270.210.9912 >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net < dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net > On >>> Behalf Of sp...@pzk.pl >>> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2023 9:58 AM >>> To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net >>> Subject: [Dx4win] FW: FW: QSL Manager editor not available. >>> >>> Guy, >>> >>> Thank you for speaking up on this topic. >>> >>> The AD1C databases are not updated automatically, but the user does it >>> manually: >>> Help, Check for updates, selecting which databases to update from AD1C. >>> >>> So what prevents the user from deciding whether to use the QSL manager AD1C >>> database or his own QSL info? >>> >>> When creating a new version of DX4WIN (v.9), you cannot block users from >>> using the existing very good features. >>> >>> Especially since these functions are available in the help. "Main Window: >>> File | Databases | QSL Managers" >>> >>> So many years have passed since the last update (ver 9.0.0.1259 - 2019) >>> that >>> this problem could have been removed and this function unlocked. >>> >>> Once again, I am asking Paul KK4HD to take care of this problem and in v.9 >>> unlock the ability to IMPORT/EXPORT your own databases QSL managers (as it >>> was in previous versions) regardless of the import of AD1C files. >>> >>> Thank you in advance for quickly solving the problem. >>> >>> >>> Greetings from Poland. >>> >>> -------------------------- >>> Vy 73! >>> >>> Krzysztof "Chris" >>> SP5KP, SN5N >>> >>> eMail: sp...@pzk.pl >>> web: https://sp5kp.pzk.pl >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: ON4AOI [mailto:on4...@skynet.be] >>> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2023 3:26 PM >>> To: sp...@pzk.pl; dx4win@mailman.qth.net >>> Subject: RE: [Dx4win] FW: QSL Manager editor not available. >>> >>> Chris, >>> This is not an error in the software >>> But something that is left out for other reason For example automatic >>> updates >>> >>> Guy ON4AOI >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net < dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net > On >>> Behalf Of sp...@pzk.pl >>> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2023 2:06 PM >>> To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net >>> Subject: [Dx4win] FW: QSL Manager editor not available. >>> >>> Mike W0VTT, >>> Jim AD1C, >>> Paul KK4HD, >>> >>> Mike, you didn't understand the problem. >>> >>> I want DX4WIN v.9 to provide me with the following functions: DATABASES >>> Exprt/Import file QSL Managers (and not only address editing) - functions >>> that are described in the help "Main Window: File | Databases | QSL >>> Managers" >>> >>> I mainly want to be able to use the files of the national QSL office on my >>> PC, which I will be able to add to the files downloaded from AD1C and >>> import >>> the whole thing to my Dx4WIN installation >>> >>> Jim, thank you for your willingness to help, but my local information QSL >>> SP >>> Offices should not be in your database and therefore this suggestion does >>> not solve the problem). >>> >>> In previous versions this function worked and was very helpful. I have not >>> found any information anywhere why this function was blocked with the >>> message: QSL Manager editor not available >>> >>> I bought DX4WIN for the first time about 30 years ago (I started with v.4) >>> and I still want to use v.9 (only this error spoils the entire program). I >>> don't want to go back to old versions where this function works very well - >>> as described in the help "Main Window: File | Databases | QSL Managers" >>> >>> I'm reporting the problem here on REFLECTOR because I don't know who should >>> fix this error. >>> Once again, I would like to ask the person who programmed v.9 DX4WIN to >>> take >>> care of the problem and let me know when this error in v.9 will be fixed. >>> >>> Greetings from Poland. >>> >>> -------------------------- >>> Vy 73! >>> >>> Krzysztof "Chris" >>> SP5KP, SN5N >>> >>> eMail: sp...@pzk.pl >>> web: https://sp5kp.pzk.pl >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Mike Cizek W0VTT [mailto:mgci...@gmail.com] >>> Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2023 3:32 PM >>> To: sp...@pzk.pl; DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net >>> Subject: RE: [Dx4win] QSL Manager editor not available. >>> >>> Hello Chris, >>> >>> Yes, it is different in v9. In the QSO window, enter the QSL manager's >>> callsign and press <CTRL-E>. type the address into the window that pops up >>> and select OK. >>> >>> --- >>> 73, >>> Mike Cizek WØVTT >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net < dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net > On >>> Behalf Of sp...@pzk.pl >>> Sent: Saturday, 18 November, 2023 04:52 >>> To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net >>> Subject: [Dx4win] QSL Manager editor not available. >>> >>> Hello >>> >>> >>> >>> I have been using DX4WIN for many years. Currently v. 9.0.9.1259 in which I >>> have 370477 QSOs. >>> >>> >>> >>> I recently encountered this problem: >>> >>> >>> >>> I systematically update the databases from the DX4WIN website. >>> >>> But I also want to add my own QSL mangers as I did in previous versions, as >>> described in the help: >>> >>> "Main Window: File | Databases | QSL Managers" and there were no problems >>> with it. >>> >>> >>> >>> Unfortunately, when trying to enter (v. 9.0.9.1259): >>> >>> File, Databeses, QSL Mangaers I receive the following message: >>> >>> >>> >>> QSL Manager editor not available >>> >>> >>> >>> What is the reason for this? >>> >>> Maybe I have something configured incorrectly? >>> >>> >>> >>> Please help me. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -------------------------- >>> >>> Vy 73! >>> >>> Krzysztof "Chris" >>> >>> SP5KP, SN5N >>> >>> >>> >>> eMail: <mailto:sp...@pzk.pl> sp...@pzk.pl >>> >>> web: < https://sp5kp.pzk.pl/ > https://sp5kp.pzk.pl >>> >>> >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> DX4WIN mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> DX4WIN mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> DX4WIN mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> DX4WIN mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> DX4WIN mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >______________________________________________________________ >DX4WIN mailing list >Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net > >This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- Dmitry Zaslavsky Отправлено из Почты Mail.ru ______________________________________________________________ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net
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