Every Renishaw probe I have used has had to have the spindle oriented when
probing. Otherwise I could not trust the results. Try the probe. It will
measure much better than .005.
Hth
Stuart

On Wed, Feb 27, 2019, 12:58 PM Gene Heskett <ghesk...@shentel.net> wrote:

> On Wednesday 27 February 2019 12:16:17 Jon Elson wrote:
>
> > On 02/27/2019 07:50 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > >   But repeated measurements require I add about
> > > 2 counts to the scale value for every repeated measurement done that
> > > way, and I've added around 20 counts trying to catch up. In a 16750
> > > count, 20 is not that much.
> >
> > This is not a MATH problem.  I'm assuming open loop steppers
> > here, hope that is what you have.
>
> yes.
>
> > If you get a fairly consistent accumulating error every back
> > and forth movement, it is likely something to do with timing
> > of the step pulses relative to the direction pin.  Make sure
> > the space between step pulses is in the right sense, so that
> > the direction never changes when the step pulse is "true".
> > That is the one that will surely foul up many step drivers,
> > especially if they are microstepping.
>
> These are, by 8 I believe.
>
> > Also, check all
> > details of the step timing, pause between step pulses, etc.
> > If you don't have detailed specs for your drives, then try
> > doubling the step pulse, step space and setup time on the
> > direction and see if that helps the problem.
>
> Ok.
>
> > Jon
> >
> I haven't checked with a scope to see if the pulses are right side up,
> meaning the opto's are only driven for step time, with a large off time
> in between pulses but will. With the 7i76, thats very easily reversible
> as it has both polarities of drive available.
>
> The hole patterns its cutting are round and it takes 12 passes thru the
> loop to cut one hole, stopping and digging 8 thou deeper per pass around
> the circle. I'd thought of that, which is why I checked them for round
> although the pattern in the spoil board might be questionable, its
> cherry ATM & tends toward leaving a little fuzz. It doesn't cut as clean
> as mahogany.
>
> But I'll double check with a scope yet this afternoon. The drivers are
> the original 2M542's, step and space are 1750ns, setup and holds at
> 4000ns. Thats some longer in each case than what I've found for that
> driver.  All 4 are running with that timing. Getting a solid 5 volts on
> the + and the -signal for on time from the 7i76 on its - terminal.
>
> Its crowded up there though as the garage door motor impinges on the
> space on the overhead shelf where everything but the coolant tank
> resides.
>
> I should also comment that a g0x0.000000 always ends up at 0.000xx when I
> do that, then grab the moving caliper and slide it back against the side
> of the tool, with the xx often less than 10.
>
> Far more accurately than this renishaw clone can do. I find in the spec
> sheet its a .005" device.  Thats so discouraging I haven't even mounted
> it. I'd assume one measures the ball, and figures in half the ball
> diameter plus a fudge of 2 to 4 as its true trip point. Piece of junk
> IOW. Not at all concentric as it recommends locking the spindle to use
> it. Moronic waste of money on my part.
>
> Thanks Jon. I'll go fix the missus some lunch and get to it.
>
> Cheers, Gene Heskett
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