Hello, One principle of those Video chats that shall prevent any impression of a power-grab is that every time someone else is hosting it who then acts as a moderator. The overall idea I think is that someone working on something (or about to work on something) gets some extra stimulus or the sensation of some presence from the community. I tend to think that everything is discussed on this list, still. Also, these calls are happening too rarely (is it every second month?) as that anyone would hold back on the list to raise an issue.
Petter (who is not subscribed to this list - an IRC person) will be the next host and then maybe we should find someone outside the GMT+-1 comfort zone as a host. That maybe also helps with integrating those who yet did not (or not too frequently) attend, I hope. The next host is typically decided at the end of those video sessions but let's have it here. Any takers? Best, Steffen > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 24. November 2022 um 17:53 Uhr > Von: "Chris Morley" <chrisinnana...@hotmail.com> > An: "EMC developers" <emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net> > Betreff: Re: [Emc-developers] Next LinuxCNC video chat > > We were hardly zero tier. > My complaint is that if you didn't go to the video meeting that there seemed > to be no way to find out what happened, nor a way to see the discussion after > the fact. > > That is what I meant by two tier. > > IMHO the first order of business of the video meeting would be to figure out > how to include people not there with reasonable effort. The nice thing about > maillists and chats is that they are self documenting. > > There is nothing wrong with having video chats from time to time. But I think > you are using it to force (relatively) quick decisions rather then an > alternative way to comunnicate. > > You want to get something done in this project faster - then become a > developer and do it. > We very seldom refuse to incorporate work that was been merged. > I found out pretty early that if I wanted to do work that I thought might be > a problem then I would ty to discuss on the maillist. Sometimes people > answered, sometimes not. If not, then I would merge my work when ready. > Nothing like merged work to motivate people to get involved. > > Obviously, there are some things that we need to agree on - such as merge > strategy that we must discuss to change, but the time it takes to discuss on > mail list is actually an advantage. > > What we are really missing is a vision to converge on and a leader to see it > through. > And more developers. But that is no guarantee either - mackinekit had those > and has petered out it seems, unfortunately. > > But now that I have a link, at least I can see the summary of what you were > thinking/discussing. > > Chris > ________________________________ > From: Jérémie Tarot <silopo...@gmail.com> > Sent: November 24, 2022 3:40 PM > To: EMC developers <emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net> > Subject: Re: [Emc-developers] Next LinuxCNC video chat > > Le jeu. 24 nov. 2022 à 06:19, Chris Morley <chrisinnana...@hotmail.com> a > écrit : > > > How about a summary write up? > > > > Andy has just pointed to them so won't double. > > > > We are making a two tier project if we continue like this. > > > > At least that's some tiers ! > Seeing our inability to discuss and decide lately, at least to support > and/or free Andy, if not to look forward and plan for the future, we almost > look like a zero tier no-org :'( > Hopefully some things will come out of it because written channels have > proven inoperative these days... > > _______________________________________________ > Emc-developers mailing list > Emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers > > _______________________________________________ > Emc-developers mailing list > Emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers > _______________________________________________ Emc-developers mailing list Emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers
