On 2008-05-27 17:11, Douglas Napoleone wrote:
On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 6:21 AM, M.-A. Lemburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 2008-05-27 02:47, Douglas Napoleone wrote:
So +1 for enforcing a CC license and have the submission form double
as a release form. The alternative ends up robbing the community of
valuable materials, and generating problems on the AV end.
Hmm, I wonder who's the robber in such a context :-)
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We have found that having ANY opt-in or opt-out adds a huge effort to
volunteers (irregardless of AV recording).
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To date we have less than 50% of the forms for any talks. This despite
a massive effort to prevent this.
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In the end we are doing away with it completely as anyone who does not
want their talk shared, should not be giving it at a community
conference.
That's a rather extreme position, IMHO.
By restricting speakers to give talks based on whether they like to
appear on YouTube or not, doesn't sound like a particularly friendly
attitude. Especially, since you are giving in on a minority - those
who insist on having AV recordings.
Speakers who already have problems speaking in front of a crowd
would definitely be scared away by the perspective to have their
presentation appear on the net.
And, to reuse you argument, the community (at the conference) would
lose a lot more because of this - at least in some cases.
I say this as someone who signed the opt-out form for my lightning talk.
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If PyCon US wants to move in such a direction that's for them to
decide. However, we're discussing EuroPython, so things are allowed
to be different.
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Of course. I was just giving my opinion. Frankly EuroPython should be
very different than PyCon US. Having them be the same would be to the
detriment of the community.
With that said, you should not just toss out an Idea or opinion just
because it came from PyCon US.
Oh, that's a wrong impression. I just don't regard PyCon US as mother
of all Python conferences :-)
I really don't think that doing AV recording of the conference
should receive so much focus and volunteer time.
There are by far more important things to do, where such
volunteer time would be better spent.
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True, but if you have people who want this bad enough you should not
stop them IMHO. Just make sure they know what they are in for.
We were not going to do the AV recording, but we had volunteers who
wanted to make it happen. The other option was not having those
volunteers help out (they were not interested in any of the other
work). The end result is they ended up helping out with other things
as well and we are better off for having them.
Point taken.
(I know how much work it is to do those talk videos - having spent
many many hours on the eGenix videos last year.)
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