Hi! M.-A. Lemburg wrote: > On 2008-12-17 17:49, Michael Foord wrote: >> M.-A. Lemburg wrote: >>> On 2008-12-17 15:21, Michael Foord wrote: >>>> It is not making exceptions that provide the benefit... PyCon US at >>>> least feels that there is no reason to accept a public talk where the >>>> speaker refuses to allow it to be made public... >>> There's a difference between allowing someone else to publish your >>> talk or go public with it yourself. >>> >>> There's also a difference in giving a talk to a live audience which >>> is over when its over or having your performance persist on the net >>> until eternity. >>> >>> >> I agree. >> >>> I'm -1 on rejecting talks from people who want to keep control >>> over how they go live on the net or if at all. >>> >>> >> The question is whether allowing people who are unwilling to let us >> publish a recording is worth the hassle it causes - and I'm -1 on >> allowing it as I see no benefit. >> >> As a side benefit, I think this is more likely to persuade people to be >> willing for recordings to be published than it is to dissuade people to >> give talks. This is certainly the experience of PyCon US. > > That's the US way of persuading people. I hope it doesn't > become the European way. > > It's easy enough to have a checkbox on the registration which says: > > """ > [ ] I agree to have my presentation published on the net by the > EuroPython organizers. > > Please note that for organizational reasons, the organizers may > still record the presentation, even if you decide against giving > authorization to publish the recording. The organizers will > only publish presentations from speakers/attendees who have given > their express permission to publish their works. > """
Just to clarify: In order to get those recordings done at all the plan is to stream them live and then record it on the streaming site (e.g. ustream.tv). So we need to know when people don't want to be recorded/streamed. I personally don't really understand though why you wouldn't want to be filmed. First you can see for yourself how to improve, second you want to get the word out about your cool thing you are talking about, so the more publicity the better I'd think. What does happen if somebody in the audience films you without you noticing anyway and they put it on the web? I would take the web as natural extension of such events these days. And what does happen if somebody live-blogs what he says? Is this a problem, too? > It's easy enough to just skip talks while editing them based > on a list of speakers who have granted permission. If there is editing, yes. I am trying to skip this part ;-) > For lightning talks and other adhoc presentations, I'd be +1 on > requiring implicit permission from all speakers. > >>>> They have no prevision >>>> for exceptions and therefore no need to check when preparing recordings >>>> for release. >>>> >>> I think that's a wrong approach. >>> >>> Besides: Recording and editing sessions is a lot of work and that work >>> is better spent on more useful activities, such as e.g. getting a >>> complete list of talk *slides* on the net. >> >> There is benefit in both. > > Sure, there's always a benefit in being able to access presentations > after they have been given. However, in the past, not even the slides > were made available by all speakers. IMHO, tt would be far better to > at least get all those together on the website, rather than discussing > the next steps. Should streaming work it at least would not be work on the side of the presentator to put something online, it will be there automatically. But that's all I have to say about this topic, you discuss and tell me the result. But in any case it would be good if we can make sure that CC licensing blurbs are signed in advance. And if we have some decision that we give choice to be streamed then those presentators should not use a checkbox but simply tell the guy streaming to shut it down. -- Christian -- Christian Scholz Homepage: http://comlounge.net COM.lounge blog: http://mrtopf.de/blog Luetticher Strasse 10 Skype: HerrTopf 52064 Aachen Video Blog: http://comlounge.tv Tel: +49 241 400 730 0 E-Mail [email protected] Fax: +49 241 979 00 850 IRC: MrTopf, Tao_T neuer Podcast: Der OpenWeb-Podcast (http://openweb-podcast.de) new podcast: Data Without Borders (http://datawithoutborders.net) _______________________________________________ Europython-improve mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
