Hi Richard Ruquist You still don't understand inextended variables. Since 1p is inextended (it involves consciousness), 1p has no size, so it could include an infinite number of universes.
[Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net] 12/5/2012 "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen ----- Receiving the following content ----- From: Richard Ruquist Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-12-03, 08:54:30 Subject: Re: Re: One cannot have 1p if there is no observer. RC, So the entire universe can be in 1p at all times. RR On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 7:49 AM, Roger Clough <rclo...@verizon.net> wrote: > Hi Richard Ruquist > > Yes, God is the supreme observer. See Leibniz. > The supreme monad sees all clearly. > > > [Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net] > 12/3/2012 > "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen > > > ----- Receiving the following content ----- > From: Richard Ruquist > Receiver: everything-list > Time: 2012-12-03, 05:59:05 > Subject: Re: One cannot have 1p if there is no observer. > > Roger, > > Isn't your god an observer? > Richard > > On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 3:55 AM, Roger Clough <rclo...@verizon.net> wrote: >> >> >> One cannot have 1p if there is no observer. >> >> >> [Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net] >> 12/3/2012 >> "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen >> >> >> ----- Receiving the following content ----- >> From: meekerdb >> Receiver: everything-list >> Time: 2012-12-01, 18:00:16 >> Subject: Re: Against Mechanism >> >> On 12/1/2012 12:52 PM, John Clark wrote: >>> >>> Again there is nothing special about an observer in this, the same thing >>> would happen if nobody looked at the film, or even if you used a brick >>> wall >>> instead of film, because the important thing is not that the photon makes >>> a >>> record (whatever that is) but simply that it is destroyed. >>> >>> >>> > But you can do the experiment with electrons too, and the electrons are >>> > not destroyed. >> >> >> Good point. If electrons are used in the two-split experiment a brick wall >> probably wouldn't do, you'd need a metal wall. Brick is a pretty good >> insulator so you'd end up with 2 small negatively charged spots on the >> wall >> in slightly different places; >> >> >> How would you get two charged spots? Would each have charge -e/2? The >> experiment was originally done with photographic film, so that each >> electron >> ionized a silver halide atom resulting in a silver spot on the film. Now >> it's usually down is some kind of detector that amplifies the effect of >> each >> electron. Neither one has anything to do with destroying the electron. >> >> the walls would not be the same and so the 2 universes would not be the >> same >> and so they would not merge. However if it was a metal wall the electrons >> would just join the general sea of free electrons in the metal and there >> is >> no way even in theory to tell one electron from another. So the walls >> would >> have the same charge and mass. >> >> >> But in an entangled electron pair experiment (EPR type) detecting the path >> of one electron destroys the interference pattern on the other leg. But >> also just absorbing one electron destroys the interference on the other >> leg. >> To maintain the interference you have to absorb the electron at the focal >> point of a lens so that you not only don't detect the which-way >> information, >> you erase it. >> >> Brent >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. 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