On 10 January 2014 13:19, Jesse Mazer <laserma...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 7:57 PM, LizR <lizj...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On 8 January 2014 12:53, Jesse Mazer <laserma...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 4:35 PM, LizR <lizj...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On 8 January 2014 08:59, Jesse Mazer <laserma...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Well, most physicists already agrees physics is time-symmetric (well, >>>>> CPT-symmetric, but the implications are the same for Bell's inequality and >>>>> thermodynamics), >>>>> >>>> >>>> Yes, they do, but it doesn't appear to be taken into account when >>>> discussing Bell's inequality. >>>> >>>> >>>>> but I don't see how this alone can explain violations of the Bell >>>>> inequality. >>>>> >>>> >>>> No, you need to work out the consequences mathematically, and I dare >>>> say that is quite difficult. This is simply a *logical* demonstration >>>> that Bell's inequality can be violated while retaining locality and >>>> realism, which is otherwise impossible. >>>> >>> >>> As I said in another comment, if you allow information about the state >>> of complex systems like detectors to flow back in times as well as >>> forwards, it's not clear that this really counts as preserving locality. >>> >> >> Nothing is flowing either way in time. (Assuming a block universe, >> nothing *can* flow in time - the notion doesn't make sense). >> > > I think you're reading something into my talk about information "flowing > back in time" that I didn't intend. >
Not exactly. I am just aware that some people will do so, so I was trying to make it very clear that you didn't mean what those people (they know who they are!) might read into it. Also, once you start thinking of things as flowing through time you can end up with an awfully complicated system (like the TI) which you shouldn't need, because the whole thing is quite simple, being fixed by logical constraints. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
