On 1/27/2014 3:20 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 27 Jan 2014, at 06:55, meekerdb wrote:
On 1/26/2014 9:19 PM, LizR wrote:
On 27 January 2014 17:31, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net
<mailto:meeke...@verizon.net>> wrote:
On 1/26/2014 6:44 PM, LizR wrote:
On 27 January 2014 14:08, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net
<mailto:meeke...@verizon.net>> wrote:
On 1/26/2014 3:15 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
I have provided the definition. Should I repeat?
God is the transcendental reality we bet on, and which is supposed to be
responsible for my or our existence.
Sounds like "physics" to me.
If physics is transcendental, a lot of people may be wasting their time
trying to
find a TOE.
Depends on what "transcendental" things have to transcend. Bruno's fond of
pointing out that physicist just assume that matter is fundamental but don't
define it. Of course they might say, "It's whatever we find to be
fundamental...and we're calling it doG."
Transcendental does have a lot of meanings, depending on who's using it, but generally
I'd take it to be something like "beyond our understanding", hence my (tongue in
cheek) comment.
I think Bruno has a point. Well, at least, I'd be disappointed if physicist decided
that they couldn't explain matter etc, and that they should just "shut up and
calculate" from now on.
Refer to my discourse on solving "the hard problem". If you calculate stuff accurately
and predict stuff that surprising, people will think you've explained it.
By definition, that can solve only the easy problem. You just dismiss the hard
problem.
Yet, the hard problem is 99,9% solvable, but with the price that physicalism is wrong.
net adavantage, we do get an explanation, not only for consciousness, but also for the
origin of matter.
Here I 'm afraid you tend to be an eliminativist, here.
That's the main point. Science has advanced and people *suppose* that it has explained
gravity and electromagnetism and atoms and descent of species and lots of other stuff.
But what it has done is show their relations and made accurate predictions AND
*eliminated* the things people asked to be explained: Newton didn't explain what pushed
the planets around. Darwin didn't explain how animals adapted. Maxwell didn't explain the
luminiferous ether. Just like we can't explain to Edgar how gravity gets out of a black
hole. Science advances a lot by "eliminativism".
Brent
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