No, they do count on Babe City, as a golden reward for dying in battle against 
the qufars (infidels) and traitors to Allah. Hot and cold running virgins, 
galore.  The death penalty and civilized thing bothers me a bit. Nations that 
don't seek revenge on predatory people, leave themselves open to being bullied 
themselves-look at Europe. What about the families of the victims? Should they 
not have vengeance? That, of course, is another topic, and can what is 
"civilized" really be enforced. What happens when Liz turns the other cheek and 
a thug caves in her skull? Threating badies with real retaliation might be a 
reasonable thing?
 
 
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From: LizR <lizj...@gmail.com>
To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sat, May 31, 2014 5:39 pm
Subject: Re: Pluto bounces back!



On 1 June 2014 00:20, spudboy100 via Everything List 
<everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Liz, not everyone shares your values in this old world. 


Gosh.
 
You fear for the innocent, which is good, but lets face it, most of those 
convicted appear to be guilty.


Appear to be, yes, exactly. Hence no civilised country should have the death 
penalty for anything, as indeed most civilised countries don't.
 
 The problem is the western legal world is that there is no real control over 
prosecutors and judges who perform malpractice. In the Islamic world, it 
doesn't appear to be a search for truth, but the employment of fatwas, and the 
use of sharia law in all muslim lands, and hadood laws in Pakistan. Because if 
the laws are wrong then muhammed is wrong, if muhammed is wrong, then archangel 
gabriel is wrong, if gabriel is wrong then allah is wrong, if allah is wrong 
then maybe he doesn't exist as the arab nation describes, if this is true, no 
afterlife. This, for them, is too much to sacrifice. 



Sure. No virgins? Even their afterlife is so breathtakingly unambitious.
 


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