On 12 June 2014 07:01, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote: > > On 11 Jun 2014, at 13:45, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: > > I don't know. To me, a huge fatality count for you homeland, might suggest > a huge response. What if your murderers take your civilized response for > weakness and prepare another attack? This would be my concern. > > I can understand the use of torture and the dismiss of human right in > urgent situation is a conflict. That is why I did not have problem with > Bush at the start. But even in the serie 24 the hero (Jack Bauer) is > condemned for those acts (despite he saves many lives from those acts). > > Obama criticized Bush for having done those thing illegaly, and made them > legal! > > That is anti-constitiutional, anti-democratical. It does not make sense. > Obama countersigned it and promised not applying the bill, but then what? > > Be sure to vote only to a candidate which promises as first act when > elected to add the precision needed in that act. > > You cannot use terror against terror. You cannot lose your > civilization-nes in the process of defending yourself from the barbarian, > without becoming barbarian. >
Exactly. You gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes into you. > > If we tolerate by law that the human right does not apply to some humans, > all humans lose the human rights. > > It makes us weak, at first sight. But quite strongest for the long run. > I think this line in particular is in response to the original question. > > Violence is never a good argument, especially against violence. It can be > a good strategy in exceptional self-defense situation. That one can be > cured by ... piece treatises. The one by Obama can't, as it installs war at > home perpetually. > > "War is peace" Indeed. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
