We can speak of funding, but I am still being stubborn, regarding the need for
technical development before we think of regulation. The biggest impediment to
using thorium 232, are not regulations but fears of cost/price, safety, and
proliferation. What we can also consider are the cost/price, safety, and
terrorist issues for Betavoltaics, which I am certain you must be familiar
with. Solar is stifled, not because of getting PV's up to speed, but the lack
of attention to a necessity-storage.
What about funding? If the elites wanted, they could make the banks loan money
in exchange for a gigantic prize (this is one option). Say, develop a
technically-and commercially perfect (adequate) means for replacing gasoline
and diesel for vehicles. Money, Valuta, Cash. This is the incentive to win, to
change. Otherwise, things will drag along. But, please, lets not regulate who
owns property on the Moon, until people start settling there. That's my view.
Tech first, Regulations last.
-----Original Message-----
From: meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net>
To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sun, Dec 14, 2014 2:22 pm
Subject: Re: real A.I.
Technology doesn't come by magic. Nuclear power and photovoltaics were
both developed by the government. Low emission automobiles were developed
in response to government regulation. Sure technology is the solution to
global warming, but technology takes development and development takes
money. Regulations not only restrict things, they also promote things.
One of the impediments to building thorium based nuclear powerplants is
that there are not regulations for them. If you propose building one the
first thing investors, local communities, local governments will ask is,
"Will it meet all the safety requirments and regulations." There aren't
any (except the generic ones) so you can't get approval to build it. This
is a problem only the federal government can overcome by doing the
initial development and writing safety standards based on the operation of
pilot plants. No capitalist is going to invest in such a developmental
project - it's too risky at the legal level even if the technology were
already developed (which it isn't).
Brent
On 12/14/2014 7:45 AM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote:
The important thought to take away, is, rely on technology to
perform a real world, Newtonian physics, reality. Do not rely on
Regulations for a fix, not by itself. Technology. It either works or it
doesn't. laws are words can always be made into lies, and deception.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jason Resch <jasonre...@gmail.com>
To: Everything List <everything-list@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sat, Dec 13, 2014 1:10 pm
Subject: Re: real A.I.
On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 10:44 AM, John Clark
<johnkcl...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net>
wrote:
> And deniers are luddite morons who think we
> can fix global warming on short notice when it
> gets a lot worse but we can't screw it
> up in the meantime.
For heaven's sake, by 2100 we'll have full
Nanotechnology and Quantum Computers at our
disposal, or rather the human race's AI successors
will. Global warming is small potatoes.
On this I agree with John. If anyone can be accused of
luddism, its the "technological singularity deniers", who
believe technology progresses at a constant linear rate and
are ignorant of projections of the coming intelligence
explosion. The technological singularity will happen
well before 2100, and if it doesn't, it will be because
we've already wiped ourselves out.
For those unfamiliar with the concept, I recommend this as a
good primer:
http://www.kurzweilai.net/the-law-of-accelerating-returns
An analysis of the history of technology shows that
technological change is exponential, contrary to
the common-sense “intuitive linear” view. So we
won’t experience 100 years of progress in the 21st
century — it will be more like 20,000 years of progress
(at today’s rate). The “returns,” such as chip speed and
cost-effectiveness, also increase exponentially. There’s
even exponential growth in the rate of exponential
growth. Within a few decades, machine intelligence will
surpass human intelligence, leading to The Singularity —
technological change so rapid and profound it
represents a rupture in the fabric of human
history. The implications include the merger of
biological and nonbiological intelligence, immortal
software-based humans, and ultra-high levels of
intelligence that expand outward in the universe at the
speed of light.
Jason
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