You are a very superstitious man, Curtis—acting under the compulsion of your 
atheism.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <curtisdeltablues@...> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" <whynotnow7@> wrote:
> >
> > I don't know who's image is on the shroud, though I find it amazing that 
> > such a thing persists in outfoxing the most delicate and sophisticated 
> > analysis our physical science can produce.>
> 
> It isn't that it is outfoxing science.  It is a work of art by any standard 
> and it isn't cool to destroy it because of a superstition.  Science came 
> through on dating it, so unless Jesus lived in the middle ages, it isn't him.
> 
> < Its interesting from a perspective of what researchers continue to find out 
> about the cloth itself and its charismatic image. Who cares if someone says 
> its Jesus? Could be, but who cares? Not really the issue.>
> 
> I think it really is.  If it wasn't being protected as a relic they would be 
> able to take enough samples to answer more questions.  Superstition is 
> protecting this work of art and it is being treated differently because of 
> that.  It is really ONLY the superstition connection that makes it a matter 
> of interest at all.  That period of history was full of relics that just 
> didn't get preserved to make it to our time.
> 
> < They still cannot identify how the image was made. That is mysterious and 
> lively and interesting to me. Whether or not such an image is Jesus is 
> impossible to prove, and far less interesting.
> > 
> 
> The whole idea fascinates me in a different way.  It is a window into human 
> beliefs.  Since it came from an age of relics being sold, it has the mystical 
> credibility of a sideshow three headed dog in a bottle of formaldehyde in the 
> back of a carnival tent.  Step right up folks, Jesus' burial shroud, with his 
> image as clear as a painting of Elvis on velvet, step right up.
> 
> I saw some saint's relics in a monastery I visited. Some fingernails and 
> cloth of some saints. Leftovers from the time the rich paid for indulgences 
> to get out of purgatory quicker.  This shroud has a context of the flim 
> flamery of an era of relics  sold for cash. It is a version of Jesus on the 
> toast sold on ebay.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
> > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Excellent example of the misuse of science to promote a magical agenda.
> > > 
> > > These guys didn't examine the shroud at Oxford.  What they are doing is:
> > > 
> > >  "The results show a short and intense burst of UV directional radiation 
> > > can colour a linen cloth so as to reproduce many of the peculiar 
> > > characteristics of the body image on the Shroud of Turin,' the scientists 
> > > said"
> > > 
> > > OK, so lets take them at their word.  Some of the "pecular 
> > > charactoristics" of the image on the shroud can be duplicated by another 
> > > process only found today.  
> > > 
> > > Real scientists might conclude that since ths technology was not around 
> > > either in Jesus' time or when the Shroud was probably made,
> > > 1260–1390 AD, then this was probably not how the shroud was made.
> > > 
> > > Oh wait, its Christmas time. Sorry.  The need for Christmas miracle 
> > > stories to feed the hoards trumps all! 
> > > 
> > > Ok, I'm onboard now. We don't know what it was that caused the image... 
> > > so it was aliens. No sorry, it was magic Jesus.  Jesus was magic and made 
> > > a magic cloth with his magicness and now we have evidence of magical 
> > > things happening at this magical time of the year.
> > > 
> > > Long as I get my pfeffernuesse cookies I'll keep my mouth shut.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" <jr_esq@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > There's probably another explanation.  Maybe the body naturally 
> > > > releases chemicals or certain auras after death that appear to come 
> > > > from ultraviolet light.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" <whynotnow7@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > The person under the shroud created light tuned to that frequency, 
> > > > > leaving its impression on the fabric. Sounds like a sidha at work.:-)
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" <jr_esq@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Scientists from Italy say the image was created by ultraviolet 
> > > > > > light.  How can that be?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/scientists-turin-shroud-image-created-ultraviolet-lasers-182107870.html
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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