not a tirade merely statement of facts - talk to Kyle like I suggest and see 
whats what
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On Sat, 5/3/14, steve.sun...@yahoo.com <steve.sun...@yahoo.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Re-Facilitating a Future and the New TM 
Movement:
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Saturday, May 3, 2014, 3:25 PM
 
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
     
       
       
       I am happy
 that you have found a technique that works for you.  Thanks
 for explaining something about it. 
 But I see that you have not lost your ability to
 tie any comment to your usual tirade against MMY, TMO, Bevan
 Morris etc.
 I guess the Shikantaza form
 of meditation hasn't done much to mitigate the adverse
 effects that seem to have accumulated from your time with
 TMO.
 Keep at it, and maybe you
 will have a breakthrough.
 
 ---In
 FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mjackson74@...> wrote
 :
 
 How is this dropping
 names? I was giving you info on what Shikantaza is since you
 mocked it as being some kind of "designer
 meditation" - it has been around as part of Buddhist
 practice for centuries. I think you are taking pot shots at
 it just because I like it and you don't care for me
 since I am honest about what a liar and huckster Marshy was,
 what a liar and huckster the TMO leaders are and how much
 damage TM, TMSP and TM mentality can cause and HAS caused
 under certain circumstances. The suicides, attempted
 suicides, people admitted to mental institutions and more
 are no joke. Talk to Kyle Cleveland sometime - he was born
 and raised in the Movement, is all over the Net as a very
 vocal critic of TM and Marshy. Ask him about his experiences
 sometime and see how you feel afterwards.
 
 
 
 
 
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 On Sat, 5/3/14, steve.sundur@...
 <steve.sundur@...>
 wrote:
 
 
 
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Re-Facilitating a Future
 and the New TM Movement:
 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 
 Date: Saturday, May 3, 2014, 1:05 P
 
 
 
 Jesus Christ,
 
 what a little piker you are. My God, if dropping names was
 a
 
 means to enlightenment, you've arrived little
 
 fella.
 
 
 
 Between that, and your list
 
 of Bourbons, you've got the spaced
 
 covered.
 
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
 
 <mjackson74@...> wrote :
 
 
 
 You
 
 are an idiot. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Shikantaza (只管打坐?) is a Japanese translation of a
 
 Chinese term for zazen introduced by Rujing, a monk of
 the
 
 Caodong school of Zen Buddhism. In Japan, it is
 associated
 
 with the Soto school.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Sōtō Zen or the Sōtō school (曹洞宗 Sōtō-shū?)
 is
 
 the largest of the three traditional sects of Zen in
 
 Japanese Buddhism (the others being Rinzai and Ōbaku).
 It
 
 emphasizes Shikantaza, meditation with no objects,
 anchors,
 
 or content. The meditator strives to be aware of the
 stream
 
 of thoughts, allowing them to arise and pass away without
 
 interference.
 
 
 
 --------------------------------------------
 
 
 
 On Sat, 5/3/14, steve.sundur@...
 
 <steve.sundur@...>
 
 wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Re-Facilitating a Future
 
 and the New TM Movement:
 
 
 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 
 
 
 Date: Saturday, May 3, 2014, 3:18 AM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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