Looks like with today's DNA testing they could figger out who Jesus's 
descendants are. I mean, all they would need is to get the DNA off of that 
there Shroud of Turin or maybe get a piece of the one true cross - I hear tell 
they got a lot of vendors in the Holy Land who sell 'em. 

      From: salyavin808 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, December 5, 2014 3:58 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: YhWh is Shiva?
   
    


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Sal, the Romans didn't require anybody to travel for the census. That was a 
Jewish *thing*.Families thought they  should be counted from their ancestrial 
homes. It was a matter of pride. Joseph's ancestrial home was Bethlehem, from 
where the House of David came(more prophecy). BTW, Jews did not accept Jesus as 
the messiah because He didn't fulfill *all*of the requirements of messiah, 
which were more political in nature, becoming King, throwing the gentiles out 
of Israel, yada yada yada. However, many of the older rabbis beleived that 
messiah would come twice, once as a suffering servent, as Jesus came and taught 
(humility, humbleness, forgiving[letting go and taking it as it comes] and 
submission to His will , "You shall not see me here again until you have 
learned to cry" and later to rule as King.
You may well be right Mike, in which case I bow to your superior knowledge. 
I got the info from a fascinating prog on TV that got the owners of the channel 
into trouble and they have had to stop broadcasting their alternative-Christmas 
message.

  From: salyavin808 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, December 5, 2014 4:39 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: YhWh is Shiva?
 
 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mjackson74@...> wrote :

Real mince pie, with suet and mutton and so on?

Mutton? I hope not!


Not an American thing?
  From: salyavin808 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, December 5, 2014 3:04 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: YhWh is Shiva?
 
 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <jr_esq@...> wrote :

S3,
Among the Jews, Yahweh is still unmanifested although they're still waiting for 
the messiah to come.
I thought Jesus was the messiah, but they just didn't like him much because he 
told them to follow their faith rather than greed and corruption so they had 
him nailed to a tree rather than mend their ways. Oops.
After that it was a bit embarrassing for his followers still to claim he was 
special so the whole "rebirth through resurrection" thing was invented so there 
was still some sort of point to his life.
And the only reason the story about his Ma and Pa travelling to Bethlehem was 
invented was to fulfill an old testament prophecy that the messiah would be 
born there. The Romans would not have required people to travel to take part in 
the census' they were way more organised than that.
Hmm, all this has put me in a festive mood. Time for a mince pie!

Among the Christians, Jesus is considered to be the Son of God.  So, a theology 
has developed stating that the Divine has a triune quality in God the Father, 
Son, and Holy Spirit.
But the Muslims, although they claim to have the same tradition as the Jews, 
believe that the true God is Allah.  Thus, we're having the turmoil regarding 
religion that is destroying Iraq and Syria today.
I don't suppose any of them are going to stop and ask if god could help them 
out like he used to, and if not why not?


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <s3raphita@...> wrote :

Re "Yahweh is I-AM-WHO-I-AM and does not have a manifested body":

Ever hear of a chap called Jesus?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <jr_esq@...> wrote :

Yahweh is IAMWHOAM and does not have a manifested body although It is known by 
the Hebrew prophets.  On the other hand, Shiva has a manifested form and is 
known to have a wife in Parvati.



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