Well Bronte,
The honesty of this situation is I have presented my beliefs. Your beliefs are
otherwise.
That's fine- so this is how it stands.
> >
> > [Bronte: The only guidance needed is one's own inner guidance.
> It's the nature of the human spirit to wake up.]
> >
> >
> > Ron:
> > My comments, coming from my path will mirror that of Ramana
> Maharishi's admonisions.
> >
> >
> > Bronte:
> > I disagree with almost everything of the philosophy of the Neo-
> Advaitins, RM's very much included.
> >
> >
> > Ron:
> > Regarding a mentor or Guru, it is 100% that one will need this for
> unfolding enlightenment.
> >
> >
> > Bronte:
> > This is a typical guru mind-enslavement statement: "You can't do
> it without me." It spiritually disempowering of seekers and self-
> aggrandizing of gurus, designed to suck in clients. It's like a real
> estate agent telling you can't possibly sell our house successfully
> without an agent to guide you. Imagine what would happen to business
> if people realized they could do it by themselves?
> >
> >
> > Ron:
> > Some very rare one's will do it on their own. It is ego which
> declares a Guru is not needed, or even I am that rare one - after
> all, Ramana did it this way and so can I.
> >
> >
> > Bronte:
> > Good sales line: "it's your ego." That one really snags the
> spiritual consumer. Get 'em with their guilt. Way to go, Ramana
> Maharishi!
> >
> >
> > Ron:
> > Why? because one in darkness needs light- and the light is just
> not there. If it were, then one wouldn't be in darkness.The Guru is
> the one that has traversed the journey from start to Realization,
> having gone through it, they are the light to show others.
> >
> >
> > Bronte:
> > What do you mean, "the light is just not there"? What is a human
> being's nature, darkness or light? Don't you believe that everything
> is God's light? Then how can you think one can't become aware of that
> light within themselves by the power of that light within themselves?
> >
> > To wake up to one's nature is as natural as waking up in the
> morning. Saying you can't do it by yourself is like saying you'd
> never wake up in the morning if you didn't have your mother to call
> you.
> >
> >
> > Ron:
> > In my path, it is not that they desire to be guru or step forward
> to do so, they are
> > commissioned by their own Guru's to do so.
> >
> >
> > Bronte:
> > That may well be. It's those who've bought the sales pitch who
> are best equipped to perpetuate it.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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