Hi Kelley

I have responded and attached an article but I don’t see my post coming 
through. It may be because of the article size, that there may be a delay. I 
will watch and see if it goes through and try to repost.

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kelley 
S
Sent: September-21-15 2:14 PM
To: felvtalk
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Testing the list

Regarding the Winstrol, are there any scientific studies I can show my vet?

On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 1:04 PM, Kelley S 
<moonv...@gmail.com<mailto:moonv...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I am having a problem with the list.  I never see the initial posts (for 
example I did not see this one) , and there were many replies before the thread 
hit my inbox.    Merlin is hanging in there.

On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 12:42 PM, Amani Oakley 
<aoak...@oakleylegal.com<mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com>> wrote:
That’s exactly what it does. In humans, it is also given to treat severe non 
responsive genetic anemia. However, it is an anabolic steroid which athletes 
use, so it is also excellent to build muscle mass in cats that are wasting and 
as I mentioned, it is a superb appetite stimulant.

Quite unfortunately in my opinion, it got a bad reputation because (a) athletes 
abuse it and (b) there was this observation in the vet world that it caused 
liver damage. When our beautiful little Zander had his miraculous turn-around, 
I waited a full year to contact the internal medicine specialist who had seen 
in him in the ER clinic and had administered blood transfusions to Zander. That 
vet and everyone else had told us that there was nothing else that could be 
done when Zander reacted to the second blood transfusion, and we were told a 
third transfusion would likely kill him as he had now developed antibodies to 
the foreign red cells. When I called this vet to tell him of Zander’s amazing 
turn-around and the fact that Zander was actually still alive and doing very 
well after a year, the internist said to me that I had “gone old school” in 
using the Winstrol. When I asked him what he meant, he explained that they used 
to use Winstrol all the time for leukemia and a host of other conditions in 
cats, but they had stopped when some talk at some vet conference suggested that 
it might cause liver damage. I explained that we had followed Zander’s blood 
work closely, and while we did see a rise in some liver enzymes eventually, 
they went back to normal after tapering the medication, and there were no 
lasting problems with the liver. We have now seen this in several other cats 
with other conditions like sarcoma, FIP, etc. We have had good response to the 
Winstrol in almost every scenario we have tried it (and we always take the 
sickest of the sickest cats to look after), and occasionally we seek a spike in 
liver enzymes but it doesn’t affect the cats and it disappears with no lasting 
effect on the liver.

Amani

From: Felvtalk 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org>]
 On Behalf Of Jenn Trotter
Sent: September-21-15 1:25 PM

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Testing the list

Amani - I am interested in Winstrol. Is that something that has been tested to 
help non-regenerative anemia?

On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 1:16 PM, Amani Oakley 
<aoak...@oakleylegal.com<mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com>> wrote:
Hi Katherine

See my email regarding use of Winstrol. I tried LTCI injections on our little 
boy, while monitoring him extremely closely with weekly blood work. The LTCI 
did absolutely nothing for him, though we tried it for at least six months. As 
soon as I put him on the Winstrol, and again, running weekly blood work, his 
red blood cell numbers began to climb – and I mean within days of starting the 
medication. They continued to climb, as did his platelets which had also been 
running low. His reticulocyte count (measuring new red cell production) also 
went up, and it had been at almost zero for more than 8 months before the 
Winstrol. We had given him several blood transfusions because he just wasn’t 
producing any red cells himself.

Amani

From: Felvtalk 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org>]
 On Behalf Of Katherine K.
Sent: September-21-15 11:24 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Testing the list

We are hanging in there. My 2.5 year old, Jazz just went for his annual check 
up and weighed in at 13.5 lbs! He's quite healthy. My 12-13 yr old cat Krammer 
used to weight that much but has lost 2 lbs since May unfortunately, and is now 
down to 9.5 lbs. He is on a low dose of Prednisolone to stimulate appetite. I'm 
debating whether to buy more LTCI injections - he's had them monthly for the 
past 2 years but they're just so costly and hard to measure if they actually do 
anything.  Sigh.

On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 10:56 AM, Jennifer Lewis 
<blonded...@mac.com<mailto:blonded...@mac.com>> wrote:
All good here. Brynn seems as healthy as can be...
Jennifer L
On Sep 21, 2015, at 7:52 AM, James G Wilson wrote:

> Hey all,
>
> Just testing the list. There hasn't been any traffic in
> awhile. Hope everyone and their little ones are doing well.
> Best wishes.
>
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