Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 17, Issue 21

Margo Mon, 28 Sep 2015 11:47:33 -0700

This year I also used Little City Dogs Nytenpyram (generic Capstar) in conjunction with Flea traps. Usually Advantage does fine. I tried multiple topicals, and this year, NOTHING worked. I did have to use it more than once, and used the dog size mixed into food for 6-8 cats, divided between them.

Margo

-----Original Message-----
From: Diane O'Dell
Sent: Sep 28, 2015 2:21 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 17, Issue 21

For the fleas:

I like Virbac's Knockout spray (give it about 30 minutes to dry before kitties walk across and ventilate, of course). It can be used on all fabrics (curtains, bedding). It kills all stages up to 6 months. Cheapers (a bit) on Amazon (so use Smile.Amazon to support your 501c3 of choice!).

Also, to everyone who deals with fleas … and has multiple pets (or if you're running a shelter and need larger quantity): I HIGHLY RECOMMEND (safe, kosher, made fresh in NY by family who cares … and flavored to mix in food) … www.littlecitydogs.com Ms. King can answer questions and you can tell her I sent you. I LOVE to spread this word, once I learned of her products in the flea (tapeworm/heartworm) battle. Because her Capstar EQUIVALENT (instead of $45 for 6 which … if you have six cats is only ONE day of treatment for ADULT BITING stage fleas) … is AS EFFECTIVE flavored and SO MUCH CHEAPER.

I fully trust this product after research/experience - and the family who makes it. I hope it helps all of you/shelters to save money. There is also an ingestible once-a-month flea treatment if you're caring for feral colonies, etc. And I am loving my new $4 Oster Flea comb from Amazon to get "flea dust" by another means …

On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 11:26 AM, <felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org> wrote:
Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org

You can reach the person managing the list at
felvtalk-ow...@felineleukemia.org

When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..."

Today's Topics:

1. Plan for Coco (Kelley S)
2. Re: Merlin has gone to the bridge (Margo)
3. Re: Merlin has gone to the bridge (dlg...@windstream.net)
4. Re: Merlin has gone to the bridge (Lorrie)
5. Re: Plan for Coco (Lorrie)
6. Re: Plan for Coco (dlg...@windstream.net)
7. Re: Merlin has gone to the bridge (Katherine K.)
8. Re: Merlin has gone to the bridge (Amani Oakley)

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Message: 1
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2015 16:51:59 -0500
From: Kelley S <moonv...@gmail.com>
To: felvtalk <Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Subject: [Felvtalk] Plan for Coco
Message-ID:
<cae8gywgn3qkn_kaa1yzfrsr25tvxgg2aur5fch+ic1spjle...@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Hi all,

Coco is FELV+ kitty #2. My plan for her so she doesn't feel so alone until
I can bring myself to mix (all other kitties have tested negative, some
multiple times) is to buy a large cat condo and put her in it at least a
couple hours a day out here. Now, what I want to ask yall about is
spaying. She is unsprayed. There is NO chance of her getting out (she'd
have to get out of the FELV room, then out of the basement, then upstairs
then out an exterior door upstairs, which is not going to happen, plus when
we leave we go out the garage door to go out so if anyone WERE to follow us
they'd still just be in the garage). As long as I've had her she has never
seemed to go into heat. If she did it was a silent heat. Is it more
stressful to spay her or more stressful to not spay her?

She is a beautiful medium hair orange girl.

I am going to ask the doctor about Winstrol for her. I am debating taking
her to the holistic vet but she is so expensive here ($400 for an initial
visit). I have her on Standard Process Feline Immune System support 1
tablet 2x day. I am putting a Seresto collar on her if I can keep it on
her We have a bad flea problem here and nothing I am doing is helping. I
have lived all over the south and this is the worst flea problem I've ever
seen. We have tried diatomaceous earth. Advantage doesn't do much at
all. Revolution works for a little while. I have some Advantage spray
which kills adults, larva and eggs to spray on carpeted furniture I am
taking the blankies out of that room and wash them in hot water and dry on
high heat to kill eggs Even our vet does not know what to do. I am
declaring WAR on these flea.
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://felineleukemia.org/pipermail/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org/attachments/20150927/4540ee89/attachment-0001.html>

------------------------------

Message: 2
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2015 18:07:04 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
From: Margo <toomanykitti...@earthlink.net>
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Merlin has gone to the bridge
Message-ID:
<28079601.1443391624799.javamail.r...@wamui-mosaic.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://felineleukemia.org/pipermail/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org/attachments/20150927/94ca8483/attachment-0001.html>

------------------------------

Message: 3
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2015 22:20:09 -0500
From: <dlg...@windstream.net>
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Merlin has gone to the bridge
Message-ID: <20150927232009.6TQQT.7668.root@pamxwww03-z01>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

I am so sorry for you and Merlin. I have been there far too many times and it never gets easier
Do not punish yourself too much. We try to do our best and with every loss, we learn and future cats benefit. You did the best you knew with the knowledge you had and most of all, you loved him and he knew it.

---- Kelley S <moonv...@gmail.com> wrote:
> They say his heart gave out.
>
> Kelley

------------------------------

Message: 4
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2015 07:40:25 -0400
From: Lorrie <felineres...@frontier.com>
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Merlin has gone to the bridge
Message-ID: <20150928114025.GB830@lnx12>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

Kelley,
-
You did NOT fail him. Heart disease is not easily detected and cats
are very good at hiding their pain and illness. I had a FelV cat who
just suddenly died at age 6 and she showed no symtoms of illness, she
simply laid down and died on the kitchen floor. This is the longest
any of my FelV cats lived. Most of them die at 8 to 10 months of age.
-
Lorrie

On 09-27, Kelley S wrote:
> I failed him.? I did not notice his symptoms in time.? Now I have his
> "sister" (not blood related" by herself.? She is going to be
> miserable,she does not like to be alone.? I had an appointment for 2
> other cats on Monday.? I am switching her out with one of them so that
> I can get her completely checked out.? Not that heart failure is
> contagious, but I need to be more on top of my FELV+ cats, or now,
> cat.? I can't do this anymore, I don't know how yall do it.? I don't
> have "too many" cats overall, but I do think I have "too many" to
> handle many chronically ill (or potentially chronically ill).? I guess
> any cat is "potentially chronically ill." ? By the way, I fell even
> more in love with this doctor when he told me he had taken home 2 FELV+
> kittens from the clinic and they died before 10 months old.? I read
> between the lines that someone wanted their FELV+ kittens euthanized or
> did not want them when they tested pos. ?

------------------------------

Message: 5
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2015 07:48:01 -0400
From: Lorrie <felineres...@frontier.com>
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Plan for Coco
Message-ID: <20150928114801.GC830@lnx12>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

To spay or not to spay, that is the question. I had one spayed years
ago and she came thru it fine, but this is the one who died suddenly
at age 6. Her sister was not spayed, but put on birth control and she
is still alive and appears fine. My other FelV cats died mostly as
kittens ages 8 to 10 months, but one made it to a year and a half..
-
Lorrie

On 09-27, Kelley S wrote:
> Hi all,
> Coco is FELV+ kitty #2.? My plan for her so she doesn't feel so alone
> until I can bring myself to mix (all other kitties have tested
> negative, some multiple times) is to buy a large cat condo and put her
> in it at least a couple hours a day out here.? Now, what I want to ask
> yall about is spaying.? She is unsprayed..............

------------------------------

Message: 6
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2015 6:57:56 -0500
From: <dlg...@windstream.net>
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org, felineres...@frontier.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Plan for Coco
Message-ID: <20150928075756.R8SON.8369.root@pamxwww11-z01>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

All of my cats get spayed/neutered as soon as they are old enough. Unwanted kittens are targets for guns, cars and poison around here. People think of strays, dog or cat s a nuisance, not worthy of respect and life.

---- Lorrie <felineres...@frontier.com> wrote:
>
> To spay or not to spay, that is the question. I had one spayed years
> ago and she came thru it fine, but this is the one who died suddenly
> at age 6. Her sister was not spayed, but put on birth control and she
> is still alive and appears fine. My other FelV cats died mostly as
> kittens ages 8 to 10 months, but one made it to a year and a half..
> -
> Lorrie
>
>
> On 09-27, Kelley S wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > Coco is FELV+ kitty #2.? My plan for her so she doesn't feel so alone
> > until I can bring myself to mix (all other kitties have tested
> > negative, some multiple times) is to buy a large cat condo and put her
> > in it at least a couple hours a day out here.? Now, what I want to ask
> > yall about is spaying.? She is unsprayed..............
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Felvtalk mailing list
> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

------------------------------

Message: 7
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2015 08:32:34 -0400
From: "Katherine K." <kaths...@gmail.com>
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" <felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Merlin has gone to the bridge
Message-ID:
<calslj93f8tjsgpkzdherdsejmw1q+zukzh1jfl6893f1a_l...@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

I'm so sorry Kelley. Thank you for taking such good care of Merlin. I know
he appreciated it. <3 <3 <3

On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 7:40 AM, Lorrie <felineres...@frontier.com> wrote:

> Kelley,
> -
> You did NOT fail him. Heart disease is not easily detected and cats
> are very good at hiding their pain and illness. I had a FelV cat who
> just suddenly died at age 6 and she showed no symtoms of illness, she
> simply laid down and died on the kitchen floor. This is the longest
> any of my FelV cats lived. Most of them die at 8 to 10 months of age.
> -
> Lorrie
>
> On 09-27, Kelley S wrote:
> > I failed him.? I did not notice his symptoms in time.? Now I have
> his
> > "sister" (not blood related" by herself.? She is going to be
> > miserable,she does not like to be alone.? I had an appointment for 2
> > other cats on Monday.? I am switching her out with one of them so
> that
> > I can get her completely checked out.? Not that heart failure is
> > contagious, but I need to be more on top of my FELV+ cats, or now,
> > cat.? I can't do this anymore, I don't know how yall do it.? I don't
> > have "too many" cats overall, but I do think I have "too many" to
> > handle many chronically ill (or potentially chronically ill).? I
> guess
> > any cat is "potentially chronically ill." ? By the way, I fell even
> > more in love with this doctor when he told me he had taken home 2
> FELV+
> > kittens from the clinic and they died before 10 months old.? I read
> > between the lines that someone wanted their FELV+ kittens euthanized
> or
> > did not want them when they tested pos. ?
>
> _______________________________________________
> Felvtalk mailing list
> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://felineleukemia.org/pipermail/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org/attachments/20150928/67b0f3c7/attachment-0001.html>

------------------------------

Message: 8
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2015 16:26:30 +0000
From: Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com>
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" <felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Merlin has gone to the bridge
Message-ID:
<E0C1DFB06E10174B9D4AE353A62CECE3365466AC@OAKLEYSRV.oakley.local>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Kelley

My sadness is profound for your loss. My Zander ? he of the wondrous response to Winstrol ? also finally succumbed at age 7 to a very bad heart. The vet said she had never seen anything so bad, and yet there were no indications of any heart problem for the whole time. My first thought ? like you ? was that I must have missed something and I even blamed the Winstrol for the dilated cardiomyopathy. I went on line and searched and searched but couldn?t find a link. I suspect now that the virus distorted his heart as part of its pathology. When I read about your Merlin, that seemed to fit with the theory that the virus does this to them.

Don?t beat yourself up. I couldn?t have been closer to my Zander and my husband and I were doting parents and were constantly with him, but we saw nothing.

Whenever I lose one of my darling babies, I have to constantly remind myself that if not for me, they would have been out on the street or put down at an early age. If not for me, they wouldn?t have had days of sunshine and happiness and love and nourishment. You know that too.

Still, it doesn?t ease the pain much, I know.

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kelley S
Sent: September-27-15 3:08 PM
To: felvtalk
Subject: [Felvtalk] Merlin has gone to the bridge

They say his heart gave out.

Kelley
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://felineleukemia.org/pipermail/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org/attachments/20150928/fbef7b42/attachment.html>

------------------------------

Subject: Digest Footer

_______________________________________________
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

------------------------------

End of Felvtalk Digest, Vol 17, Issue 21
****************************************

_______________________________________________
Felvtalk mailing list
Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 17, Issue 21

Reply via email to