【What could be the specific role of principles herein?
Rather than opening homogeneous realms for conceptual development, these
information principles would appear as a sort of "portals" that connect with
essential topics of other disciplines in the different organization layers, but
at the same time they should try to be consistent with each other and provide a
coherent vision of the information world.】by Pedro C. Marijuan
http://kben.koderx.com/article/94/board
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by Xiaohui ZOU
http://blog.sciencenet.cn/blog-94143-942186.html
http://blog.sciencenet.cn/home.php?mod=space&uid=94143&do=blog&id=1079152
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发件人: "joe.brenner";<joe.bren...@bluewin.ch>;
发送时间: 2017年10月2日(星期一) 下午4:45
收件人: "fis"<fis@listas.unizar.es>;
主题: [Fis] Fw: PRINCIPLES OF IS. The Pre-Science of Information
Dear Pedro, Dear FISers,
In the 2 weeks I have been away, an excellent discussion has self-organized as
Pedro noted. Any preliminary comments and criticisms of Pedro’s 10 Principles
I could make now can refer to this. I would have said first that Pedro is to
be thanked for this construction. Preparing a list of principles involves
defining not only the content but also the number, order and relation between
the entries. Zou, Stan and Ted in particular have recognized the existence of
the list as such and the work involved.
My own view is that we are all currently involved in reworking the Foundations
of Information Science. These Foundations are not themselves science, but they
look forward to the increased understanding of Information Science as Terry
suggests. I propose the term “Pre-Science” for this process activity, a pun on
the word ‘prescience’ whose normal definition is foreknowledge or foresight.
The people who tend to make mistakes in this effort will be those who claim
that any simple concept or set of concepts can do the job itself, supported by
claims to authorities such as Peirce. Sets of principles, on the other hand,
are tools more difficult to use but they permit directed consideration of
several perspectives at the same time.
Principles are the basis for an interpretation of what is in the physical and
biological processes that are the proper subjects for non-computational
Information Science, without – yet – providing any explanations. Now this is a
lot more philosophical that may have been expected when the discussion
started. However, today, unlike when Pedro and his colleagues started out, we
have the Philosophy of Information of Luciano Floridi and Wu Kun to work with,
as well as my logic. I am surprised that no-one has yet referred to Floridi or
Wu.
Going back over the postings to-date, I have noted a few which seem
constitutive of a ‘Pre-Science’ of Information: Emmanuel’s ‘duality’, Stan’s
hierarchies; Michel Godron’s and John Torday’s bridges to biology, Pedro’s
reworking of communication, etc. I will resist comments that the concepts of
Pre-Science are to be thrown out as part of non-science or ‘just’ philosophy.
As Koichiro clearly said on 20.09, information can, and in my view is already,
bringing in something new empirically to questions of space and time. In the
Pre-Science of Information, ideally, it should be possible to retain mechanism
and materialism or realism; computationalism and non- or natural
computationalism; information as a physical reality and a non-physical
appearance.
I look forward with great interest to the lines of development of this thread.
Best wishes,
Joseph
----- Original Message -----
From: Pedro C. Marijuan
To: 'fis'
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 2:13 PM
Subject: [Fis] PRINCIPLES OF IS
Dear FIS Colleagues,
As promised herewith the "10 principles of information science". A couple of
previous comments may be in order.
First, what is in general the role of principles in science? I was motivated
by the unfinished work of philosopher Ortega y Gasset, "The idea of
principle in Leibniz and the evolution of deductive theory" (posthumously
published in 1958). Our tentative information science seems to be very
different from other sciences, rather multifarious in appearance and
concepts, and cavalierly moving from scale to scale. What could be the
specific role of principles herein? Rather than opening homogeneous realms
for conceptual development, these information principles would appear as a
sort of "portals" that connect with essential topics of other disciplines in
the different organization layers, but at the same time they should try to
be consistent with each other and provide a coherent vision of the
information world.
And second, about organizing the present discussion, I bet I was too
optimistic with the commentators scheme. In any case, for having a first
glance on the whole scheme, the opinions of philosophers would be very
interesting. In order to warm up the discussion, may I ask John Collier,
Joseph Brenner and Rafael Capurro to send some initial comments /
criticisms? Later on, if the commentators idea flies, Koichiro Matsuno and
Wolfgang Hofkirchner would be very valuable voices to put a perspectival end
to this info principles discussion (both attended the Madrid bygone FIS 1994
conference)...
But this is FIS list, unpredictable in between the frozen states and the
chaotic states! So, everybody is invited to get ahead at his own, with the
only customary limitation of two messages per week.
Best wishes, have a good weekend --Pedro
10 PRINCIPLES OF INFORMATION SCIENCE
1. Information is information, neither matter nor energy.
2. Information is comprehended into structures, patterns, messages, or flows.
3. Information can be recognized, can be measured, and can be processed
(either computationally or non-computationally).
4. Information flows are essential organizers of life's self-production
processes--anticipating, shaping, and mixing up with the accompanying energy
flows.
5. Communication/information exchanges among adaptive life-cycles underlie
the complexity of biological organizations at all scales.
6. It is symbolic language what conveys the essential communication
exchanges of the human species--and constitutes the core of its "social
nature."
7. Human information may be systematically converted into efficient
knowledge, by following the "knowledge instinct" and further up by applying
rigorous methodologies.
8. Human cognitive limitations on knowledge accumulation are partially
overcome via the social organization of "knowledge ecologies."
9. Knowledge circulates and recombines socially, in a continuous
actualization that involves "creative destruction" of fields and disciplines:
the intellectual Ars Magna.
10. Information science proposes a new, radical vision on the information
and knowledge flows that support individual lives, with profound consequences
for scientific-philosophical practice and for social governance.
-- ------------------------------------------------- Pedro C. Marijuán Grupo
de Bioinformación / Bioinformation Group Instituto Aragonés de Ciencias de la
Salud Centro de Investigación Biomédica de Aragón (CIBA) Avda. San Juan Bosco,
13, planta 0 50009 Zaragoza, Spain Tfno. +34 976 71 3526 (& 6818)
pcmarijuan.i...@aragon.es http://sites.google.com/site/pedrocmarijuan/
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