On 9/15/06, Axel Liljencrantz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 9/15/06, Beni Cherniavsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 15/09/06, Axel Liljencrantz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On 9/14/06, Beni Cherniavsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > But things like ``end (echo no)`` are useless, because the right
> > > > answer is always known and you only wish to state it clearly.  If you
> > > > disallow expansions in end's argument, it could be checked as part of
> > > > the syntax checks before the command is ever run, which I think would
> > > > be much more intuitive.
> > >
> > > You could do that, but there is honestly no reason to _ever_ write
> > > 'end (echo no)', so I don't see why you should change the language
> > > syntax to make it larger and less consistent just to disallow it.

Then you should have different commands, ``end'', ``endif'',
``endfor'', etc.  Allowing arbitrary expansions in the end command is,
I think, allowing the user too much room for error.

[...]
> You don't need to forbid expansion to get ahead-of-time syntax
> checking.  That is already what happens. If you don't use any
> expantions, the syntax error _will_ be checked at parse time. If you
[...]

Then I think expansions to arguments of the ``end'' command should be
forbidden in order to:
(1) ensure that the block is syntax-checked and so help people write
correct code
(2) encourage readability of code

The danger is that people may try to use expansion in an ``end''
command, thinking that it's cool or necessary.  But in fact it is
dangerous (not checked) and not legible.

So expansions should be disallowed, similar to the way ``goto'' does
not exist in most languages.  Fish should protect the user from making
mistakes when possible.

And I think the same is true of expansions for the ``for'' command.

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