Thank you!!!! I will let this email percolate over the weekend and then reach 
out to Bernard and Rick to see how we pass the baton.

I sincerely appreciate your willingness to help out.

TVB

Tammy Van Boening
Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com
www.spectrumwritingllc.com

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Framers <framers-
> bounces+tammyvb=spectrumwritingllc....@lists.frameusers.com> On Behalf
> Of Harding, Dan
> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2023 4:16 PM
> To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
> <framers@lists.frameusers.com>
> Subject: Re: [Framers] Framers list admin?
> 
> Tammy,
> 
> If there's a need, I'm certainly willing to help out from a list admin 
> perspective,
> especially if it is a group/team effort. I've been subscribed to the list 
> since 2008
> (at least that's as far back as my saved emails from the list go). For
> background, while I took early retirement from the University of Illinois 2
> years ago, I still work for the same department 6 months out of the year as a
> consultant, and during that 6 months I am using FrameMaker daily, so I too
> still rely on and check the list regularly (less regularly during my 6 months 
> of
> non-employment, but still check the list weekly at a minimum).
> 
> While I typically prune my contact information from list emails, I'm 
> including it
> below.
> 
> DAN HARDING
> Publications Manager
> Assistant Director, Information Technologies (Retired)
> 
> University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign Tax School Department of
> Agricultural and Consumer Economics
> 412 Mumford Hall | M/C 710
> 1301 W. Gregory Drive
> Urbana, IL 61801
> 217.333.0935 | fax: 217.244.5933 | dhard...@illinois.edu
> taxschool.illinois.edu
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Under the Illinois Freedom of Information Act any written communication to
> or from university employees regarding university business is a public record
> and may be subject to public disclosure.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Framers <framers-
> bounces+dharding=illinois....@lists.frameusers.com> On Behalf Of Tammy
> Van Boening
> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2023 4:31 PM
> To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
> <framers@lists.frameusers.com>
> Subject: [Framers] Framers list admin?
> 
> OK,
> 
> I am sure that I am gonna' get excoriated by a few folks on this list after 
> this
> post, but at this point in my life and career, I am tough old bird.
> 
> I had been trying to post to the list for the last two days w/out any 
> success. I
> was last able to reply to a post successfully on 8/25 and then since that time
> (through 9/12), no joy. I reached out to Bernard as the last that I heard is 
> that
> he had stepped up to the plate to be the list admin after Carol Elkins and 
> Rick
> Quatro stepped back.
> 
> Eventually, after no response via the link at the bottom of all emails, I 
> called
> Bernard directly at his business.  Here is the email response that I received:
> 
> *******************************************************************
> *******************************************************************
> *******************************
> Hello Tammy, thanks for reaching out. I don't even recall my password for the
> list but might be able to find it. I'd suggest reaching out to Rick Quattro. 
> He's
> got full admin permissions in the system as well.
> 
> Uh, OK. The absolute >>LAST<< that I knew, Bernard was the list admin and I
> have never seen a post to the otherwise; moreover, I actually had a brief
> conversation with Rick Quatro a while back and he explicitly stated that he 
> was
> not the list admin, Bernard was.
> 
> I know that many of us on this list are getting long in the tooth, myself
> definitely included, but I most certainly can still use the support of the
> community at times. I intend to keep working for at least the next 2 years,
> maybe 3 and I simply cannot imagine not having this list as a resource when
> needed. FM is still the tool of choice for several of my clients for many 
> reasons,
> and even after all these years, I still need a nudge in the right direction 
> or need
> to learn something new. I can't imagine that there are not others in the same
> boat.
> 
> I kinda' feel like we (the list users) have been left hanging and have not 
> been
> really given the whole scoop. I am more than willing to step to the role of 
> list
> admin part-time if someone else is willing to co-admin. I don't have the
> bandwidth for being a sole admin, but being a co-admin would be fine. At this
> point, the list traffic is light enough and the list members so well known 
> that I
> can't imagine having too many list issues such as a recruiting imposter, spam,
> etc.
> 
> If you're interested, please just respond to this email directly on list 
> because if
> we several folks willing to step up, that would lighten the burden for all of 
> us,
> but still keep a very necessary resource for so many of us active.
> 
> Thanks for reading!
> 
> Tammy Van Boening
> Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com
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