On Sun, May 16, 2021 at 12:24:49PM +1000, Kubilay Kocak wrote:
> On 15/05/2021 2:35 am, bob prohaska wrote:
> > 
> > I've never used IRC, is it somehow better than this list?
> 
> Quicker isolation of root causes over async back and forth. Happy to go over
> it with you at your favourite 'real-time medium'

No real favorites. In emergencies I tend to pick up the telephone. 
 
This doesn't seem like an emergency, and in any case the phone is a poor 
medium for a problem like this. There are some ports under /usr/ports/irc,
if you have suggestions I could try one or more. If a phone call is useful,
my number is 530 753 2005, California PDT. The answering machine screens
calls, I pick up if I recognize the caller's message. I can return calls
anywhere in the lower 48. 

It's important to remember that even if the comms delay is zero my comprehension
delay is much greater than zero. Sometimes infinite. That's apt to either bore 
or 
frustrate experts.

Mark Millard is trying to give me an inkling of how poudriere works. It's a 
stunningly
complex process, apparently approximating individual virtual hosts compiling 
each port.
I'd like to see the ports system keep working as it has in the past, but that 
seemingly 
requires a kind of machine intelligence that hasn't evolved yet. Poudriere 
seems like
a brute force approach. Persuading ports (and porters) to cooperate is more 
efficient 
if it's possible.

Thanks for reading, and any thoughts you might have!

bob prohaska
 



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