Broadband will always be used but should be used by only people who can
be trusted. Using it everywhere is dangerous. Its so fast and quiet. The
theft
is complete before an alarm can be raised. Its like giving a burglar the
ability
to quietly clean your house out in 5 second.

DS

On Sun, 21 Dec 2014 16:51:30 -0500 dmccunney <dennis.mccun...@gmail.com>
writes:
> On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Dale E Sterner 
> <sunbeam...@juno.com> wrote:
> 
> > Copper is long gone and my dial up still works.Fiber is just a 
> carrier.
> 
> Dial up uses analog signals transmitted over copper wire.  Fiber is
> digital end-to-end.
> 
> When you dial up, you presumably use a modem and connect via an RJ45
> jack to a connector on the wall.  What does the connecter have 
> inside?
>  I'm willing to bet a lot it's copper wire.  The wire will teminate 
> in
> a mux somewhere in the basement of your building or in the street,
> and long haul traffic will be over fiber, but the conversion from
> analog to digital happens elsewhere.  (And what the telco 
> historically
> used was *not* TCP-IP.  They sent digital packets, but used a
> completely different protocol.  I used to *be* a telecom admin.  I
> actually know something about this.)
> 
> In my area, copper at the point where the user will connect is no
> longer available.  It's fiber end-to-end.  Existing copper
> installations still work, but if they fail they will not be 
> repaired.
> Verizon is treating hurricane Sandy damage as a good excuse to drop
> copper, and people who had copper that failed because of hurricane
> damage have already been told it won't be fixed, and their options 
> are
> cell phone and/or fiber.
> 
> > Peon is anyone who takes orders from a boss. Just about everybody.
> 
> And the boss is the one who should be in control?
> 
> > Dial up is so slow it would take years to clean out Sony instead 
> of minutes or hours.
> 
> Dial up is so slow Sony would not be able to do business in their
> current fashion if they were restricted to it.  Neither would 
> anybody
> else.  You would not like living in the world that would result.
> 
> > Sony was most likely an inside job. Some peon probably did it - 
> revenge
> > or money who knows.
> 
> Speculation is all over the web, with current fingers mostly 
> pointing
> at politically motivated hackers in NK, who were unhappy about a new
> Sony Pictures film that portrayed their leader in an unflattering
> light.
> 
> > Sony uses broadband and was the exit point for their billion 
> dollar
> > files.  They didn't leave Sony in a brief case.
> 
> Hacks like the one that breached Sony occurred back when stuff *was*
> still dial up.  Slower speed may make it take longer to get the 
> data,
> but will not prevent the breach.
> 
> > DS.
> ______
> Dennis
> https://plus.google.com/u/0/105128793974319004519
> 
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