Thanks, Bruce.

mris_make_template --help stops at 'valid options are:'  :-(

One of the input parameters is a surface name - I suppose 'orig', 'white',
'pial' etc are valid.  I'm not sure what surface to specify; is it 'sphere'
or 'inflated' or something else?

Cheers, Darren

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce Fischl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 12:12 PM
Subject: Re: registration of whole cortical sheet


> Hi Darren,
>
> that's pretty much the way I generated the lh and rh templates we use.
> There's a binary named mris_make_template,which you probably have, that
> will take a bunch of surface models and construct a template (.tif) from
> them. You'll have to name the individual surface lh or rh, since it's
> expecting a hemisphere. The mris_register binary is actually smart enough
> to change it's default parameters if the target is from a single surface
> (it uses a more rigid morph).
>
> Good luck,
> Bruce
>
>
>
>
>
> On
> Fri, 11 Oct 2002, Darren Weber wrote:
>
> >
> > Dear Bruce et al,
> >
> > my query is about how to register cortical surfaces across X subjects,
given
> > that we have modified the usual left/right surface separation.
> >
> > Some time ago we discussed how to extract a complete cortical surface,
> > rather than the left/right hemi surfaces.  The purpose of this being to
use
> > a complete cortical surface for ERP/MEG source modelling methods.  This
> > involves a couple of modifications to the wm volume and the usual inputs
to
> > the fill white matter process (see attached shell script for details).
In
> > my case, the resulting surfaces are called rh.*, although they actually
> > contain both left and right hemispheres, joined by the corpus callosum
(not
> > strictly cortex, but unavoidable in this approach).  For source
modelling,
> > these surfaces are nice.
> >
> > Having obtained these surfaces for nearly 20 subjects, we've raised the

> > possibility of doing a cortical thickness analysis for two groups,
controls
> > and PTSD patients.  This requires that any vertex A is located in the
same
> > coordinate system and location for all subjects, so they must be
> > coregistered (Fischl et al, 1999, Human Brain Mapping 8:272-284;
> > http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/cgi-bin/issuetoc?ID=67501785).
> >
> > Normally, I assume the registration process morphs each left/right hemi
> > cortex into two unit spheres (rather than morphing each hemi cortex onto
the
> > left/right hemisphere of one unit sphere).  So, many of the examples in
> > Fischl et al (1999) illustrate one hemisphere or another.  Thus, we
normally
> > have lh.sphere and rh.sphere, two unit spheres, one for each hemi cortex
> > surface.  Further, the spherical sulcal patterns of each lh.sphere and
> > rh.sphere are then further morphed (non-linear) to match the patterns of
> > some average template.  Obviously the whole cortical surfaces we have
are
> > not separated into lh/rh, rather the rh contains both.
> >
> > My concern here is with this template - I don't know much about it.  I
> > assume the template (average7) is specific for each left/right
hemi-cortex.
> > It might not be a good template for our data, which contains the whole
> > cortex, including the "sagittal fissure" and corpus callosum.
> >
> > Can you recommend a template for registration of these subjects'
surfaces?
> > Is it reasonable to use one subject surface as a template for all
others?
> > If so, what do you think of a two stage process, first registering all
> > subjects to subject X, then averaging across all subjects to create a
study
> > specific average, then reregister all subjects to this average?
> >
> > Many thanks for your consideration, Darren
> >
> >
> > --
> > Darren Weber, PhD Student
> > Cognitive Neuroscience, School of Psychology
> > Flinders University of SA, GPO Box 2100, Adelaide, SA 5001, Aust.
> > Ph:  (61 8) 8201 3889, Fax: (61 8) 8201 3877
> > http://203.3.164.46/~dlw/homepages/index.html
> >
>
>


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