BTW, I still like the idea moving the US to adopt the double-CEO model:
a President (head of state) and a Prime Minister (head of the government
with a cabinet). May be, as some have said, it really is too big a job
for one person.
On 11/4/12 1:54 PM, Owen Densmore wrote:
More parties? I'm for it! :)
But seriously, one question on "fair voting": when you vote, can you
vote for multiple candidates in priority order so that an "instant
runoff" can be held?
-- Owen
On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 12:41 PM, Jochen Fromm <j...@cas-group.net
<mailto:j...@cas-group.net>> wrote:
Hi Nick,
yes, it is similar where I live, although we have more parties in
Germany (conservative, socialist, liberal and green parties). No,
people usually do not change their mind in political discussions.
They change their mind during the course of time, though. I
changed my mind for example about our own chancellor, Angela
Merkel: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angela_Merkel . In the
beginning I had doubts. She looks a bit clumsy and grumpy
sometimes, and there are certainly politicians who have more
charisma. But over the years I learned to appreciate her honesty,
her modesty, and her kindness. She said she wants to serve her
country, and she really does. She would never lie intentionally.
This may seems obvious, but how can you trust someone who lies?
What about you, do you vote for Romney, Obama or someone else,
like Gary Johnson? From a psychological aspect, this election is
interesting, isn't it?
-J.
Am 04.11.2012 03:39, schrieb Nicholas Thompson:
Jochen, At this week's FRIAM meeting, we talked briefly about
politics and it was clear that there was some disagreement around
the table. We were about to let it go, on that ground, when I
decided, spurred by my newly embraced pragmatist ideology, to beg
that they all put their minds for 5 minutes to the question, "How
do we go about having a conversation with people with whom we
disagree? A conversation that would actually get somewhere." Our
usual way of proceding is what I call "FogHorns on a Shrouded
Bay." Each individual sounds off while the others listen politely
or check their email on their cell phones. That goes around the
circle a couple of times, and then people just drop the topic and
go on to something else. On the whole, most people I know would
rather be force fed castor oil than be convinced to change their
minds. So, back to you, Jochen. Is it truly different where you
are? Have you ever sat in on a political discussion in which
anybody ever changed his or her mind? How did that happen? Nick
From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of
Jochen Fromm Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012 3:20 PM To:
friam@redfish.com <mailto:friam@redfish.com> Subject: Re: [FRIAM]
The Presidential Election Interesting read. Sometimes we wonder
why other peoples voting decisions are fundamentally different
from ours even if all good reasons speak against it. Are they
backward or brainwashed? Jonathan Haidt has written a book named
"The Righteous Mind" where he argues that people don't really
listen to arguments or reasons. Guided by their emotions, they
often come to a quick conclusion what is good or bad, and this
decision is in accordance with their worldview and their moral
system (regardless how skewed it may be).
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/25/books/review/the-righteous-mind-by-jonatha
n-haidt.html?pagewanted=all
<http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/25/books/review/the-righteous-mind-by-jonath
an-haidt.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0>
<http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/25/books/review/the-righteous-mind-by-jonathan-haidt.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0>
&_r=0
-J.
Am 03.11.2012 21:18, schrieb Roger Critchlow:
Here's how backward the conservative heart of america beats:
http://www.thebaffler.com/past/the_long_con
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