Nick writes:

"It seems to me that in the discussion we are having, the word "entertainment" 
cannot go undefined.  How do you tell the difference between entertainment and 
productive work you enjoy.  That it makes a profit?"

Suppose individuals are represented by nodes on a graph, each positioned in 
some high dimensional space (subjectively defined, but such that they can all 
be projected onto a higher dimensional space by some oracle).   A definition of 
useful is the ability to move from one place in the space to another or to 
strengthen or weaken connections to others.   A connection on the graph could 
by any sort of transformation that occurs to one node given a change in the 
other.   One way to move is to be attached to another set of individuals that 
are already moving.   Such a set might be, say, a business.    To be attached 
to that set might involve participating in a class of moves relative to other 
nodes not in the set, say, the customers of that business.    These coordinated 
actions would be profit motivated actions, or more generally social 
transactions.   Similarly, there can be the opposite relationship of customer 
seeking a service (here entertainment).    Some types of transformations ai
 m to create other coordinated moves, such as a fabric of connections amongst 
nodes representing theological constraints, criminality, governance, and so on.

I'm talking about another kind of useful which is movement in a subjective 
space that is not constrained, or is only minimally constrained, by the edges 
in the graph.   Movement in this space mostly does not change the configuration 
of the graph, but the nodes nonetheless move.   Useful is not defined in terms 
of a particular graph transformation, but in understanding how to navigate the 
new dimensions without the pulling and pushing from other nodes.   Given the 
possibility of collisions in the higher dimensional space, there's the 
possibility of a new social network forming there.  

Productive work can be defined socially, in terms of the graph transformations 
(one case being profit) or it can be defined privately or semi-privately by the 
subset of nodes that define their state in terms of dimensions not yet 
influenced by the various social fabrics.

Marcus  

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