I spent my career at universities (2) except for a few years at Bell Labs
and Bios group.  I always felt that the organization I worked for was
altruistic.

---
Frank C. Wimberly
140 Calle Ojo Feliz,
Santa Fe, NM 87505

505 670-9918
Santa Fe, NM

On Fri, Oct 27, 2023, 11:45 AM glen <geprope...@gmail.com> wrote:

> That's a great article! But I have a bit of a bone to pick with it. (I
> know, right? What a boor I am.) I just can't help but read this as
> inherently Presty. I work with a handful of GenZ at my minimum wage side
> gig. They are hustlers, through and through. So a theme of the Presty
> article does ring, that of "financially stable" (never ever ever mind
> "well-off"; that's not even in the lexicon). But in that pursuit, my
> decidedly non-Presty friends work more than one job. One of them has a job
> at 2 breweries, working as an assistant brewer in one and as a "cellar
> person" at the other because Assistant Brewer doesn't provide quite enough
> income to pay the rents sought by our Land Lords. Another has 2 jobs, one
> as a bartender and the other as a ... what? ... "accounting logistics" (?)
> person at a car dealership.
>
> So the perspective and focus presented by Aden in the Presty article seems
> VERY privileged to me ... but no more so than the privilege expressed by,
> say, Steve's story about a state school graduate's perspective on the grant
> submission/evaluation process. Is it any wonder we see more graffiti like
> "Eat the Rich" these days? Is it any wonder my non-Presty friends don't
> vote?
>
> Another theme implicit in the article is Sam Bankman-Fried's huckster
> rhetoric of Effective Altrusim. When Presties talk of "service", "mission",
> and "meaning", I get this icky feeling deep down. An article from Harvard
> talking about work-life balance makes me a bit sick to my stomach in the
> same way as listening to Peter Thiel talk about the Straussian Moment (or
> Robin Hanson arguing we should have more babies). Yuck. I need a shower to
> wash off this Presty filth.
>
> But similar to Eric's local deconstruction of Elliott's bullshit about
> bimodal distributions, what's a hyper-privileged Presty to do? What options
> are there other than going with the flow? What? Should Aden quit college
> and ... walk the earth? https://youtu.be/dLdRsofkCVs?si=quzxQt7wOUZT375g
> Nah. He should stay in the game and propel the criminal enterprise until he
> finds his golden parachute. If he can't suppress his appetite for
> "meaning", he can snack on some Greenwashing and, say, support the paper
> straw initiative at the local county commissioner meetings.
>
> On 10/26/23 13:19, Tom Johnson wrote:
> > FRIAM-ers:
> > Many of us, probably a majority, have spent a lot of years in or around
> college campuses.  We dealt with students for decades.  The latest issue of
> Harvard Magazine has an interesting essay by a graduating senior describing
> his and his classmates' outlook on their future and the world.  All I can
> say is I'm glad I am retired.
> > See "What Work Means <
> https://www.harvardmagazine.com/2023/11/university-people-undergraduate-what-work-means
> >."
>
> --
> ꙮ Mɥǝu ǝlǝdɥɐuʇs ɟᴉƃɥʇ' ʇɥǝ ƃɹɐss snɟɟǝɹs˙ ꙮ
>
> -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. .
> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv
> Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe   /   Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom
> https://bit.ly/virtualfriam
> to (un)subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
> FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/
> archives:  5/2017 thru present
> https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/
>   1/2003 thru 6/2021  http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/
>
-. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. .
FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv
Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe   /   Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom 
https://bit.ly/virtualfriam
to (un)subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/
archives:  5/2017 thru present https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/
  1/2003 thru 6/2021  http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/

Reply via email to