Hello Matrin,

Sure, will try your version on a large integration test file and see if it 
is faster than the what I had with 10.3 sage.

The problem is that I know nothing about github.  I just know how to login 
to github and enter bug reports on the CAS systems I use at the issues 
page. That is all.

When I build sagemath, I download the sagemath latest zip file from 
https://mirrors.mit.edu/sage/devel/index.html 

I have no idea how to do what you said "try the branch at" . I do not know 
what this means. 

I see on the link you gave no zip file for sagemath to download.

If you could give me a link to sagemath zip file with your fixes in it, 
will be happy to download it, build it like I did for 10.3 and try it.

One day I want to take course at school how to use github if I can find one.

--Nasser

On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 8:12:00 AM UTC-5 axio...@yahoo.de wrote:

> Hi Nasser,
>
> could you try the branch at https://github.com/sagemath/sage/pull/37836?  
> It should give significant performance gains for your testsuite.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Martin
>
> On Friday 19 April 2024 at 11:49:49 UTC+2 Dima Pasechnik wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Apr 19, 2024 at 01:26:27AM -0700, 'Martin R' via FriCAS - 
>> computer algebra system wrote: 
>> > I don't know how to do it. Note that this should really work with any 
>> lisp 
>> > implementation to make sense, because some people (eg., me) will have 
>> > fricas installed with sbcl (because this is fastest), and the interface 
>> > shouldn't insist on an ECL installation. 
>> > 
>> > Do you know how to do it? 
>>
>> There is https://github.com/quil-lang/sbcl-librarian 
>> which relies on a recent https://www.sbcl.org/manual/#Calling-Lisp-From-C 
>>
>> If SBCL is the preferred Lisp then this route can be pursued - 
>> I don't however know enough about FriCAS to see how to use 
>> sbcl-librarian to call FriCAS functions from Python. 
>> (There doesn't even seem to be an example on calling FriCAS from its 
>> underlyng Lisp available anywhere - from that it should be doable) 
>>
>> I don't think it can be totally Lisp-agnostic: 
>> SBCL does not allow embedding in the way ECL does (It's Embeddable 
>> Common Lisp for a reason...) 
>>
>> Dima 
>>
>>
>> > 
>> > Martin 
>> > 
>> > On Thursday 18 April 2024 at 23:53:10 UTC+2 Dima Pasechnik wrote: 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > On 18 April 2024 21:51:34 BST, 'Martin R' via FriCAS - computer algebra 
>> > system <fricas...@googlegroups.com> wrote: 
>> > >OK, I think I have to give up. The InputForm consists of 23 964 324 
>> > >atoms. I guess that there is no sensible way to transmit this, right? 
>> > 
>> > In-memory - just how Maxima library interface is operating. 
>> > No need for pexpect interface then. 
>> > Create a FAS module loadable into libecl, 
>> > and, well, you have a huge increase in speed of the interface. 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > > 
>> > >Martin 
>> > >On Thursday 18 April 2024 at 21:50:57 UTC+2 Martin R wrote: 
>> > > 
>> > >> I have now FriCAS with ECL, but I now realize that I am doing very 
>> silly 
>> > >> things in the interface between FriCAS to sage: 
>> > >> * I do an unnecessary unparse of the InputForm (this runs forever on 
>> > ECL, 
>> > >> and crashes sbcl) 
>> > >> * I throw the result away 
>> > >> * I convert the InputForm into a string using a customized printer 
>> > >> * I parse the result 
>> > >> 
>> > >> Oh dear, what did I do! 
>> > >> 
>> > >> I guess that I was scared of creating a very long history in the 
>> FriCAS 
>> > >> process if I transmit the InputForm atom by atom. I guess I should 
>> cook 
>> > up 
>> > >> a simple protocol to transmit an ordered tree, maybe as a Stream. 
>> > >> 
>> > >> Martin 
>> > >> On Thursday 18 April 2024 at 21:03:34 UTC+2 Nasser M. Abbasi wrote: 
>> > >> 
>> > >>> These are useful lisp commands, I did not know about them. This is 
>> what 
>> > I 
>> > >>> get for my Fricas installation 
>> > >>> 
>> > >>> FriCAS Computer Algebra System 
>> > >>> Version: FriCAS 1.3.10 built with sbcl 2.3.11 
>> > >>> Timestamp: Wed Jan 10 09:37:52 PM CST 2024 
>> > >>> 
>> > >>> (1) -> )lisp (lisp-implementation-version) 
>> > >>> Value = "2.3.11" 
>> > >>> (1) -> )lisp (sb-ext:dynamic-space-size) 
>> > >>> 
>> > >>> Value = 4294967296 
>> > >>> 
>> > >>> I am also running Fricas and sagemath on VBox under windows 10. The 
>> OS 
>> > is 
>> > >>> Linux Manjaro 
>> > >>> 
>> > >>> >fricas --version 
>> > >>> FriCAS 1.3.10 
>> > >>> based on sbcl 2.3.11 
>> > >>> >sage --version 
>> > >>> SageMath version 10.3, Release Date: 2024-03-19 
>> > >>> > 
>> > >>> On Thursday, April 18, 2024 at 12:01:19 PM UTC-5 axio...@yahoo.de 
>> > wrote: 
>> > >>> 
>> > >>>> Hi Waldek! 
>> > >>>> 
>> > >>>> Thanks for the rapid answer! 
>> > >>>> 
>> > >>>> I have: 
>> > >>>> )lisp (lisp-implementation-version) 
>> > >>>> 2.1.11.debian 
>> > >>>> )lisp (sb-ext:dynamic-space-size) 
>> > >>>> 1073741824 
>> > >>>> )version 
>> > >>>> FriCAS 2022-07-16 compiled at Fr 12 Aug 2022 15:17:27 CEST 
>> > >>>> 
>> > >>>> I'm currently compiling the ECL version. 
>> > >>>> 
>> > >>>> Unfortunately, because of the MacOS problem ( 
>> > >>>> https://github.com/sagemath/sage/pull/37041) most sage users 
>> won't use 
>> > >>>> the newest FriCAS. So I'll first check whether that makes a 
>> > difference. 
>> > >>>> 
>> > >>>> Martin 
>> > >>>> 
>> > >>>> On Thursday 18 April 2024 at 18:11:21 UTC+2 Waldek Hebisch wrote: 
>> > >>>> 
>> > >>>>> On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 08:45:53AM -0700, 'Martin R' via FriCAS - 
>> > >>>>> computer algebra system wrote: 
>> > >>>>> > I started to look into one of the problems 
>> > >>>>> > (https://github.com/sagemath/sage/issues/37813): 
>> > >>>>> > 
>> > >>>>> > res := integrate((x^2+1)^(1/2)/(x^2+(x+(x^2+1)^(1/2))^(1/2)), 
>> x); 
>> > >>>>> > 
>> > >>>>> > works nicely, but converting to InputForm (which I use to do 
>> the 
>> > >>>>> > translation to sage) fails. Is there a good reason for that - 
>> i.e., 
>> > >>>>> is 
>> > >>>>> > this a bug, or just a problem with memory? 
>> > >>>>> > 
>> > >>>>> > Best wishes, 
>> > >>>>> > 
>> > >>>>> > Martin 
>> > >>>>> > 
>> > >>>>> > (2) -> inform := res :: INFORM 
>> > >>>>> > 
>> > >>>>> > Heap exhausted during garbage collection: 0 bytes available, 16 
>> > >>>>> requested. 
>> > >>>>> <snip> 
>> > >>>>> > Total bytes allocated = 1072734880 
>> > >>>>> > Dynamic-space-size bytes = 1073741824 
>> > >>>>> 
>> > >>>>> For me it works. The result is big for humans, but should be no 
>> > >>>>> problem for modern computers. I am using FriCAS trunk build 
>> > >>>>> using sbcl-1.2.4 (currently with 3Gb limit). Tried also version 
>> > >>>>> with 2Gb limit and sbcl-2.2.9 with 1Gb limit. Note 
>> > >>>>> I did: 
>> > >>>>> 
>> > >>>>> res := integrate((x^2+1)^(1/2)/(x^2+(x+(x^2+1)^(1/2))^(1/2)), x); 
>> > >>>>> ii := res::InputForm; 
>> > >>>>> 
>> > >>>>> that is I am _not_ printing resulting InputForm. But I also 
>> > >>>>> separately printed the InputForm, it works, just is slow when 
>> > >>>>> printing to terminal and useless because the result is much 
>> > >>>>> bigger than terminal scrollback buffer. 
>> > >>>>> 
>> > >>>>> -- 
>> > >>>>> Waldek Hebisch 
>> > >>>>> 
>> > >>>> 
>> > > 
>> > 
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