Hi Scott and all,

You asked if c++ is my first language. The answer is both yes and no. grin For the last several years, I have spent some time trying to learn visual basic.net c sharp and c++. Each time, I would get sidetracked with work and personal life. So, no, c++ is not my very first language. However, this is the first time I am sticking to a language and seeing it all the way through.

My experience has been that each author of a programming book has a different way of describing a topic. It is like taking a class in school. Some teachers I had I just didn't click with and try as I might, I just couldn't understand the subject matter. When I would either retake a class or take a similar course from another teacher, then the subject matter would click. I have found that if you read something and it just doesn't click the first time, keep it filed away in your mind and let your subconcious work with it a bit. Then, find more materials that may talk about the subject until you find the balance between subject matter and description. It doesn't happen overnight, and believe me, you will be spending a lot of time reading and rereading something from different sources. You may even feel that you are making no headway, but I can say with certainty that there will be a time when the light will flash in your mind and you will say, wow! I get it now!

I guesss, my whole point in this ramblefest is to not stick to one way of learning. Spend time learning in all kinds of ways from all kinds of sources if you can.

Jeremy Hartley
Jeremy

----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Chesworth" <scottcheswo...@gmail.com>
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Jeremy,

Just a quick note to say thanks for the last few emails.  From the
brief look around I just took it seems like there's a ton of good
stuff in all of 'em.

Out of interest, is C++ your first language?

Cheers
Scott

On 8/18/09, Jeremy Hartley <jeremyhart...@comcast.net> wrote:
And, lastly, for now, another site you may want to check out is
http://www.nonvisualdevelopment.org

Jeremy

----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 11:18 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] learning c#


Another cool site that I use, well, it isn't really a site but an online
class, is at
http://www.johnSmiley.com

His e-book is a great way to learn c++ for a beginner. The book is around

13 dollars, and you don't need to sign up for the class to read it and
purchase it.

His class costs about 250 dollars, but you get 3 CEUs when you finish, and

it does keep one on their toes. grin.  I am about a third of the way
through it, and yes it is accessible.

Jeremy

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeremy Hartley" <jeremyhart...@comcast.net>
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Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] learning c#


Hello there.

Well, there are several, and I mean several, places to learn c++ as a
blind person.

One of your best resources is a site called safari.oreilly.com. However,

you will have to pay for a subscription.

There is another site, filled with all kinds of tips for blind folks
wanting to get into learning any kind of programming language, as well as

containing all kinds of documents and tutorials.
 It is at
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com/


Good luck.

Jeremy
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Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 6:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] learning c#


I've been trying to learn C++ myself.
My problem is that all the books confuse me, like with Dixan.
This is a great question.
Unfortunetly, I don't know the answer, but it would be great if
someone could point those interested to a blind programming website,
since blindprogramming has gone down.
Does anyone know of any good resources for learning C++ as a blind
person?


On 8/18/09, Dickson Tan <dickson.j...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello

I've recently installed visual studio c# express 2008 and have been
playing
with it. However, I have not had much luck learning c# as most of the
books
that I've tried using is too complicated or they use the creation of
windows
forms applications to teach c# concepts (and this involves dragging and
dropping buttons, edit fields & so on which isn't ideal for me). Are
there
any good books or free online tutorials that I can use to learn c#?
Also, if
I decide to create an audio game, should I use the direct X framework
or the
XNA framework?

Cheers
Dickson


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