Hi Richard,

 seems bankers still have money to burn :-) But your grid description
definitely sounds impressive.

 What kind of "HPC" do you perform on Windows?


Cheers
Martin
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> Re: fined grained data -
> 
> At our site we mostly set 5 or 10 second polls in gmetad,
> and the same in the gmond confs. This was requested by our
> users. And yes, we have adjusted our RRD configuration in gmetad.conf
> to allow a few weeks of 5 second data.
> 
> Each of our ganglia severs handle up to 3000 hosts, although
> I once earlier had about 5,000 hosts on one servers. The
> monitored hosts are almost all windows servers doing HPC.
> 
> The ONLY way that this is even remotely possible is by
> 1) reducing the number of collected metrics to a bare
>    essential minimum for HPC (cpu, network, and I/O).
>    The cygwin agent is unable to give much more anyway.
> 2) The RRD storage on servers of up to 100 gigabytes, is
>    located on fast SAN storage. The sustained I/O has been up to
>    20 gigabytes a second sometimes. And as we all know,
>    RRD stands for "Rapid Ruination of Disks".
> 
> Why did users want such fine grained data? Well some groups wanted
> fine grained data to do "after the fact" forensics, some wanted
> immediacy to the graphs, some wanted to make sure that load spikes
> did not disappear, and others didn't know what they wanted.
> But now our user base is experienced with ganglia, some are reducing
> their poll rate (Some users want capacity trending only, say).
> 
> Richard Grevis
> Production Architecture
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> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> > Behalf Of Martin Knoblauch
> > Sent: 16 January 2007 09:44
> > To: Caleb Epstein; Grevis, Richard: IT (LDN)
> > Cc: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [Ganglia-developers] Query "From->To"
> > 
> > 
> > Richard,
> > 
> >  I second the desire to have such a feature. But: where do 
> > you get the fine grained data for "past periods" from? You 
> > need to add datapoints to the RRDs. How big are your 
> > databases compared to the default ones?
> > 
> >  But yes - useful feature.
> > 
> > Cheers
> > Martin
> > --- Caleb Epstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > On 1/15/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > The changes have been useful to us internally here, but our HPC
> > > environment
> > > > is not really like most of the HPC clusters in academia and
> > > elsewhere,
> > > > which means I am unsure of the likely level of interest. Also a
> > > change
> > > > like the from/to mod may be too much of a change for people.
> > > 
> > > I've always wished for a feature like this, personally.  I think
> it 
> > > would be a useful addition.
> > > 
> > > --
> > > Caleb Epstein
> > > 
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