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Today's Topics:
1. Re: 50 gallon Sterilite tub vivarium (Julie Bergman)
2. Re: 50 gallon Sterilite tub vivarium (Jared Morris)
3. Re: 50 gallon Sterilite tub vivarium (Julie Bergman)
4. Re: 50 gallon Sterilite tub vivarium (Jared Morris)
5. Re: Fear Factor - unethical with geckos? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 22:21:43 -0700
From: Julie Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [gecko]50 gallon Sterilite tub vivarium
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Hi Jared,
Sure, I put some U. sikorae and U. lineatus in there as temp. caging and
they started dying- I did find some mold. They just did not like it as
well as glass or screen type terraria.
Julie B.
Jared Morris wrote:
> Could you explain what you mean by "they don't do well in Sterilite"
> please Julie.
>
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From: "Jared Morris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: [gecko]50 gallon Sterilite tub vivarium
Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 22:30:36 -0700
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I wonder how spacious and/or naturalistic yours were? Not that I doubt
that
they went downhill, or your experience or expertise, but it seems glass
/plastic/wood/screen are all the same to a gecko: walls which contain them.
Not to be negative or anything, I'm just saying...
Jared
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 22:36:47 -0700
From: Julie Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [gecko]50 gallon Sterilite tub vivarium
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Hey Jared,
They were pretty basic, 40-50 gallons with a bunch of airholes. Light
and air circulation were certainly factors in the demise of my geckos!
Julie B.
Jared Morris wrote:
> I wonder how spacious and/or naturalistic yours were? Not that I
> doubt that they went downhill, or your experience or expertise, but it
> seems glass /plastic/wood/screen are all the same to a gecko: walls
> which contain them. Not to be negative or anything, I'm just saying...
>
> Jared
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From: "Jared Morris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: [gecko]50 gallon Sterilite tub vivarium
Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 23:19:22 -0700
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not in the pic, but I now have a nice light source (though no UV, just
dusting his roaches with Rep-Cal Vit D3 Ca for the next ~ 4 months he'll be
in there. As for air circulation, I have a 3"x16" vent along the bottom of
one side and top of the other side. This creates a nice airflow as warm
air
rises out the top vent, it draws in air from the bottom vent, and yet the
humidity doesn't seem to be too adversely affected. I have this same basic
principle at work in my big viv, and love the results. I've heard it
called
"European style ventilation" since many of the Dutch and German vivs use
it.
Jared
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 13:28:51 -0700
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Subject: Re: [gecko]Fear Factor - unethical with geckos?
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How could you call it anything but abusive?
Regards,
red-eye
At 11:07 AM 5/26/2005, you wrote:
>Dana,
>
>Certainly some good thoughts. Let's hear from the rest of you gexers!
>
>Julie B.
>
>Dana wrote:
>
>>Hi Julie -
>>I agree with you that this isn't cool at all - it seems to me to be a
>>case of animal cruelty. It also seems to me (from observing how people
>>think about reptiles) that most often people don't think so much about
>>reptiles being fearful, nor do they worry so much about animal cruelty
>>issues with reptiles - reptiles are often treated as an extreme "other"
>>animal in a way that people wouldn't think about or treat cats and dogs
>>and other mammals. Most people seem to be afraid of reptiles and think
>>they are aggressive rather than fearful. It is unfortunate that a TV
>>show can perpetuate people's fears and put animals in an extremely
>>stressful situation. It would be nice to make people more aware of this
>>as an issue, since a lot of people watching the show were probably
>>unaware of how afraid the geckos and the snakes probably were. A letter
>>signed on behalf of all GGA members to the network responsible (NBC?)
>>might have some effect. Any other thoughts?
>>
>>Dana
>>-------------------------
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>>On May 26, 2005, at 1:12 AM, Julie Bergman wrote:
>>
>>>Mike and all,
>>>
>>>I watched the episode tonight on my local UPN affiliate.. it was an all
>>>female competition. This part was putting two gals in a smallish
>>>plexiglass box with about 400 geckos and some pythons, maybe some other
>>>snakes. The object was to move magnets up the wall into receptacles
>>>with the reptiles mentioned having to be "moved" to accomplish the
task.
>>>One gal was bitten pretty good! The geckos were Gekko gekko (Tokay) and
>>>possibly some Gekko ulikovskii (Golden Gecko). After seeing this I
>>>don't see why geckos and snakes had to be mixed. Not cool.
>>>
>>>Julie B.
>>>
>>>Mike Martin wrote:
>>>
>>>>yea, i know what you're talking about. they might have done it again
in a
>>>>newer episode, but im pretty sure i remember an older episode where
they
>>>>had the people in with some tokay geckos, talking about how vicious
they
>>>>were. what in the world? i've heard tokays can give a nasty bite,
but
>>>>when they're packed in with a bunch of other animals and have some
person
>>>>screaming and squirming, i seriously doubt they're gonna know what to
>>>>bite. i wonder if any of those contestants have ever heard the saying
>>>>"the animals are more afraid of you than you are of them"?
>>>>
>>>>mike
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