Hey Joe,

I don't know if you remember me, we traded offspring a good 10-15 years back.  
It's good to see you're still active and going professional (I'm not, but if 
things ever settle down again I wouldn't mind getting back into breeding).

I don't have Methuen & Hewitt's original description, but here's a link to a 
review Loveridge did in 1942 with original type species description for P. 
standingi.

http://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/name/Phelsuma_standingi

Hope this helps,

Cheers,

Jason
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--- On Thu, 10/1/09, Joseph Loucek <jclou...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: Joseph Loucek <jclou...@yahoo.com>
> Subject: [gecko]Is anyone out there?  Looking for taxonomic key - P.m.grandis 
> v. P.standingi
> To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com
> Date: Thursday, October 1, 2009, 5:00 PM
> Hhhhhheeeelllllloooooooo!
>  
> Where is everybody?  No chatter at all.
>  
> I am looking for a taxonomic (dichotomous or
> otherwise) key to differentiate between Phelsuma m. grandis
> and P. standingi.
>  
> Here's why:
>  
> My graduate advisor is doing toepad research (and
> salamander population studies - that's my thesis
> topic).  He received a shipment of Phelsuma back
> in the Spring.  I just recently went over to see the
> animals, and instantly recognized that the animal dealer
> sent him a P.m. grandis and a P.m. ? (maybe kochi, probably
> grandis) when he paid for standingi.
>  
> Before he contacts the vendor, he wants to make sure
> that there isn't a chance of the two animals in question
> being standingi.  There is no doubt in my mind that
> they are not standingi, but I can only intuitively tell him
> the differences, and that is based primarily on
> appearance.  He and I both recognize that there must be
> some key morphological differences between grandis and
> standingi - I just don't know them.  All my books
> are buried in a box in my basement during a VERY LONG TERM
> (too long, if you ask my wife) remodel.
>  
> So again, the question is, does anyone have a key that
> will allows us to positively identify these two animals by
> morphology (scale counts, toe pad differences, etc.)?
>  
> thanks
>  
> Joe
> 
> 
>       



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