Hey Joe, I don't know if you remember me, we traded offspring a good 10-15 years back. It's good to see you're still active and going professional (I'm not, but if things ever settle down again I wouldn't mind getting back into breeding).
I don't have Methuen & Hewitt's original description, but here's a link to a review Loveridge did in 1942 with original type species description for P. standingi. http://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/name/Phelsuma_standingi Hope this helps, Cheers, Jason ________________________________________________________________________ "I have not failed, I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work" - Thomas Edison ________________________________________________________________________ --- On Thu, 10/1/09, Joseph Loucek <jclou...@yahoo.com> wrote: > From: Joseph Loucek <jclou...@yahoo.com> > Subject: [gecko]Is anyone out there? Looking for taxonomic key - P.m.grandis > v. P.standingi > To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com > Date: Thursday, October 1, 2009, 5:00 PM > Hhhhhheeeelllllloooooooo! > > Where is everybody? No chatter at all. > > I am looking for a taxonomic (dichotomous or > otherwise) key to differentiate between Phelsuma m. grandis > and P. standingi. > > Here's why: > > My graduate advisor is doing toepad research (and > salamander population studies - that's my thesis > topic). He received a shipment of Phelsuma back > in the Spring. I just recently went over to see the > animals, and instantly recognized that the animal dealer > sent him a P.m. grandis and a P.m. ? (maybe kochi, probably > grandis) when he paid for standingi. > > Before he contacts the vendor, he wants to make sure > that there isn't a chance of the two animals in question > being standingi. There is no doubt in my mind that > they are not standingi, but I can only intuitively tell him > the differences, and that is based primarily on > appearance. He and I both recognize that there must be > some key morphological differences between grandis and > standingi - I just don't know them. All my books > are buried in a box in my basement during a VERY LONG TERM > (too long, if you ask my wife) remodel. > > So again, the question is, does anyone have a key that > will allows us to positively identify these two animals by > morphology (scale counts, toe pad differences, etc.)? > > thanks > > Joe > > > _______________________________________________ Global Gecko Association http://www.gekkota.com Classifieds http://www.gekkota.com/cgi-gekkota/classifieds.cgi gecko mailing list gecko@lists.gekkota.com http://lists.gekkota.com/mailman/listinfo/gecko