On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Dale <rdalek1...@gmail.com> wrote:
<SNIP>
> One of the reasons I left Mandriva was because of the init thingy.  If I
> wanted one and liked having one, I would have never switched to Gentoo.
> The init thingy was not the only reason but it was one of them.  The
> reason I do not want one is because it adds one more point of failure.
> In my past experience, it failed me a lot on Mandriva.  I don't want to
> go backwards to failure.  I want to keep moving forward, which is why I
> chose Gentoo, no init thingy needed unless you put / on something like
> LVM or encrypt it or something.  That is why I put everything but /boot
> and / on LVM here, to avoid having to use a init thingy.  I have done a
> lot to avoid that thing then it turns out, someone is trying to push it
> on me anyway.
>
> If I am forced to use a init thingy, the first time it fails and I can't
> fix it, I'm moving to something else.  If I want a broken init thingy, I
> can find something else that suites my needs.  I've said it before, I
> love Gentoo but I'm not going to reinstall or otherwise spend hours
> trying to fix something that I shouldn't need to to begin with and never
> needed before.  Just saying.  ;-)
>
> Dale

Fair enough. I don't agree that leaving Gentoo because you chose to
put all of /usr on LVM and then chose not to deal with the
implications of that over time, but it's your choice and I certainly
support choice.

And I appreciate you communicating your POV.

I'm also interested in Bruce's history about initrd. Sounds like if
that worked today I'd just use it to make an initrd and be done with
it. Unlike you, I guess, I don't have any political position on these
images that get used early on, any more than I do or do not like the
format of grub.conf or other things like that.

Cheers,
Mark

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