Am 27.01.2013 22:01, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: > On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 4:30 AM, Florian Philipp <li...@binarywings.net> > wrote: >> Am 27.01.2013 03:24, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: >>> On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 6:15 PM, Florian Philipp <li...@binarywings.net> >>> wrote: >>>> Hi list! >>>> >>>> Quick question: If I deactivate the kmod use flag in udev and keep >>>> sys-apps/module-init-tools, does udev still load modules or is kmod a >>>> required flag for that? >>> >>> I'm not 100% sure, but I don't think so. The git repository has not a >>> single instance of the strings "modprobe" or "insmod", apparently the >>> only way to load modules in udev is to use kmod. I think the kmod >>> configure option (which is the one the USE flag activate/deactivate), >>> is for systems where all the modules are built-in, like embedded ones. >>> >> >> Okay. I thought I've heard about some dev patching udev to work with >> modprobe at one point. Could be mistaken or outdated, though. > > The patches in the ebuild don't include anything to use modprobe: > > http://dev.gentoo.org/~williamh/dist/udev-197-patches-1.tar.bz2 >
Thanks for looking! >>> Unless udev has no other means to load modules, I think disabling kmod >>> assumes then that all the modules are built-in. And if you use >>> modules, may I ask why you would prefer module-init-tools over kmod? >>> Specially when the later is a drop-in, better supported replacement? >>> >> >> Is it really a drop-in? I was under the impression that for example >> `modprobe -l` is not implemented (mentioned in a comment on the eudev >> fork on LWN). I guess that's outdated as well. > > No, modprobe -l is not supported, but it's trivially to emulate, and > the option was already deprecated in module-init-tools. From the kmod > README: > > "kmod-modprobe gained several features to be a 1:1 replacement for > modprobe. The only missing things are the options '--showconfig' and > '-t / -l'. These last ones have been deprecated long ago and they will > be removed from modprobe. A lot of effort has been put on > kmod-modprobe to ensure it maintains compabitility with modprobe." > > As you yourself commented, using an alias with find more than enough. > > Regards. Yeah, easy enough when you know your way around shell scripts and know where to look. In my opinion, it is still kind of stupid to remove a useful feature with no replacement. Hmm, maybe it's time to write a better replacement. Something more like eix, just for modules ... Regards, Florian Philipp
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