-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 09/28/2013 09:04 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 28/09/2013 13:32, Tanstaafl wrote: >> On 2013-09-27 7:10 PM, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >>> No really,*why exactly*? >> >> Because that was the RECOMMENDED WAY IN THE GENTOO HANDBOOK when >> I first set this system up many years ago. > > This was something almost all of us recommended way back then. Lord > only knows why we recommeded that. Maybe it was small drives (which > didn't have), maybe it was different mount options (which I never > did and never saw anyone else do either), or maybe it was for thin > clients (which I only ever saw in use once - Shuttleworth labs in > University of Cape Town). > > So why did we all (and I included myself) recommend this so much? > Dude, I have no idea, but I *think* we were cargo-culting more than > any other single factor. > > >> I have no philosophical reason reason to stick with it, only a >> (maybe irrational) fear of breaking things if I attempt to merge >> it back into /. >> >> This, combined with an intense (also maybe irrational) desire to >> avoid like the plague using an initramfs, is why this decision to >> FORCE me into a position of possibly having to break my system >> (either by a filed attempt at merging /usr into /, or a failed >> attampt at using an initramfs). > > No-one is forcing you to do anything, the news item did not say > that. > > It says that if you do it, the devs will not support you and you > are on your own. It also says that in the dev's opinion, the day > when you can no longer support it either is probably not too far > away > >> I too sincerely hope eudev bypasses this issue. > > This has nothing to do with eudev, not with udev > >> The main thing about this that pisses me off is the lack of >> enough warning... one month? Really? One month to compleyelt >> rebuild a seerver that has been running flawlessly for many >> years, just because someone doesn't like something that has been >> done for many years? > > > First, it is not one month, it is much longer. We've all been > whinging about the issue for most of this year. Two, why do you > think you need to rebuild the entire machine? You don't need to do > that just to merge two filesystems. > > To merge two filesystems, you just merge two filesystems. You > don't rebuild anything. You might have some downtime though > > Please see the news item for what it actually is, not something > else. > >
Curious; how is merging two filesystems done? I don't have a separate /usr and am completely unaffected by this change, but it's somewhat interesting to me. /usr stores some pretty important data on it, and I imagine you'd need to mount it somewhere else in order to move the files from it to /'s /usr dir. Is a Live environment recommended instead? How would you mitigate the leftover partition, assuming it's not adjacent to /'s partition? I don't run an initramfs, thankfully, but I keep a pretty simple system in terms of filesystems: /, /boot, and /home. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.20 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJSSLhZAAoJEJUrb08JgYgHFk4H/3e4LobiR0KXODLC1xznXbY0 Q923rabxPj82VDS8bP+hNx9YopKLJUlpqAtvQG982Kztw/8UUY2Q4euLfrXlN7ah pNNC0UG8KGpN9K4RF1tcEVwtXkS23f9s6GdgRPRFWq0ngJq9iJXCEW134jlcXQel vbcRiJMtmKzpnyDIrs7XZxOWhV0V5EQc1uFq4r97ydKZeOjXCpHXtYTjD8dGv3ZH 0GHQgjOFpo5WU0eIN06Jt862b/WjE7RVQZJvSY8DrXkdIDcUO5PsVHsc/Van5pMV pzQ2xV6Idh1AhQQ3meZzzAAcHzDWgXCHqnBM/gwnFCFSL/zRcFThdwapObfIVMI= =tAhS -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
