Am 28.09.2013 16:04, schrieb Alan McKinnon: > On 28/09/2013 13:32, Tanstaafl wrote: >> On 2013-09-27 7:10 PM, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> No really,*why exactly*? >> Because that was the RECOMMENDED WAY IN THE GENTOO HANDBOOK when I first >> set this system up many years ago. > This was something almost all of us recommended way back then. Lord only > knows why we recommeded that.
I never knew. Something about 'saver as..' or something stupid. > Maybe it was small drives (which didn't > have), maybe it was different mount options (which I never did and never > saw anyone else do either), or maybe it was for thin clients (which I > only ever saw in use once - Shuttleworth labs in University of Cape Town). > > So why did we all (and I included myself) recommend this so much? Dude, > I have no idea, but I *think* we were cargo-culting more than any other > single factor. > > >> I have no philosophical reason reason to stick with it, only a (maybe >> irrational) fear of breaking things if I attempt to merge it back into /. >> >> This, combined with an intense (also maybe irrational) desire to avoid >> like the plague using an initramfs, is why this decision to FORCE me >> into a position of possibly having to break my system (either by a filed >> attempt at merging /usr into /, or a failed attampt at using an initramfs). > No-one is forcing you to do anything, the news item did not say that. > > It says that if you do it, the devs will not support you and you are on > your own. It also says that in the dev's opinion, the day when you can > no longer support it either is probably not too far away > >> I too sincerely hope eudev bypasses this issue. > This has nothing to do with eudev, not with udev > >> The main thing about this that pisses me off is the lack of enough >> warning... one month? Really? One month to compleyelt rebuild a seerver >> that has been running flawlessly for many years, just because someone >> doesn't like something that has been done for many years? > > First, it is not one month, it is much longer. We've all been whinging > about the issue for most of this year. Two, why do you think you need to > rebuild the entire machine? You don't need to do that just to merge two > filesystems. > > To merge two filesystems, you just merge two filesystems. You don't > rebuild anything. You might have some downtime though one reboot. You cp everything into /newuser. On shutdown you unmount /usr, mv newuser usr, sync, unmount, reboot. if you want to do it 'old fashioned', you cp everything to /newuser, reboot with systemrescuecd, mount / on /mnt/gentoo, my newuser to usr and reboot. Oh, and change fstab. Simple and boring.
