Hello, Marc.

On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 09:21:07PM +0200, Marc Joliet wrote:
> On Wednesday 21 October 2015 15:51:43 Alan Mackenzie wrote:

> >The two keyboard layouts I use in XFCE are both fine and dandy, but they
> >are incomplete.  In particular, I want the key combination
> ><Ctrl><Alt><shift><F1> to take me to tty13 in the same way that
> ><Ctrl><Alt><F1> takes me to tty1.

> >I've been searching for _hours_ trying to find out how to do this.  I
> >cannot find the keyboard layouts anywhere under /usr/share, where one
> >might expect them.  I can't find any relevant programs to manipulate
> >these data files with, even if I could find them.

> >Would somebody help me please.  Where are the X keyboard layouts stored,
> >and what program to I need to enhance them?

> >TIA!

> I was curious, so I looked a bit myself, and found this:

> % ag ctrl-alt-f /usr/share/doc
> /usr/share/doc/kbd-1.15.5-r1/html/kbd.FAQ-7.html
> 21:<P>By default, console switching is done using Alt-Fn or Ctrl-Alt-Fn.
> 22:Under <CODE>X</CODE> (or recent versions of <CODE>dosemu</CODE>), only 
> Ctrl-Alt-Fn works.

> /usr/share/doc/kbd-1.15.5-r1/html/kbd.FAQ-8.html
> 54:Console_n       Alt-Fn and Ctrl-Alt-Fn  (1 &lt;= n &lt;= 12)
> 82:Ctrl-Alt-Fn     Switch to VT n
> 115:Ctrl-Alt-Fn     Switch to VT n (from version 0.50; earlier Alt-Fn)

> /usr/share/doc/kbd-1.15.5-r1/html/kbd.FAQ-13.html
> 28:While it is running one can use Ctrl-Alt-Fn to switch to VTn.

> /usr/share/doc/kbd-1.15.5-r1/html/kbd.FAQ-9.html
> 41:However, Ctrl-Alt-Fn will work and you can go to another VT.

> /usr/share/doc/libsdl-1.2.15-r9/html/docs.html
> 631:    The framebuffer console now uses CTRL-ALT-FN to switch virtual 
> terminals, to avoid collisions with application key bindings.

> (Online here: http://kbd-project.org/www.win.tue.nl/~aeb/linux/kbd/)

Yes, I've got that file.  It only really deals with the console
keyboard, though.

> (For those who haven't heard of it: ag is from sys-apps/the_silver_searcher.)

> From a cursory look, I couldn't find anything specific, other than that 
> apparently AltGr+Fn is supposed to give you console n+12 (though apparently 
> not from within X), but it didn't work for me, and I'm not in the mood to 
> find 
> out why.  Also, that FAQ looks... dated.  However, maybe it will help lead 
> you 
> to a solution?

I think I'm going to have to exercise my meagre search engine skills.

> Also, while I'm sure you've got a good reason for doing this, I'm really 
> curious: why not use screen or tmux instead?  Especially if you're dealing 
> with more than twelve terminals.

I've never really considered screen (or tmux).  Screen looks like a way
of "windowising" a tty, amongst other things, which isn't what I want.
In fact, reading the Wikipedia article, I'm not even clear whether
screen runs on a virtual terminal or within X.

No, what I really want is a way to go from X (XFCE for me) directly to
any virtual terminal.  At the moment, if I want to go to, say, tty14,
I've first got to go to a lower numbered tty, and then to tty14.  It's
one of these little annoyances which is scarcely worth bothering about,
but it _is_ an annoyance.

I'll continue searching.

Thanks for the post!

> HTH
> -- 
> Marc Joliet

-- 
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).

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