On 6/6/06, Timothy A. Holmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 6/6/06, Michael Crute <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I agree with Daniel, if you learn on a GUI its far too easy to make
> > bad websites. Start with VI and a good book, and do yourself a favor
> > learning CSS and XHTML since that is where web design is headed.
>
> It is probably a good idea to start with a good text editor and a
> book, but trying to learn vi and web design at the same time might be
> a bit overwhelming!
>
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[Timothy A. Holmes]

In this sense I am afraid I cannot agree with you.  While I agree that
it is ABSOLUTLY essential to learn XHTML and CSS code, trying to start
from a blank vi or notepad screen is an exercise in frustration -- been
there done that -- as I was beginning to learn web programming, working
under incredible pressure from the then resident administration, I was
trying to hand code everything in Visual InterDev.  The crowning moment
was 5 hours spent to produce 2 lines of NON-WORKING code. I far more
recommend a authoring package like Dreamweaver that allows you to flip
views or even split the views, so you can see what is happening to your
code each time you make an insertion.  I tend to do the "pretty" stuff
in the gui and use the code editor (which has autocomplete and some
other nice stuff) to do the code.  In some cases (like constructing
querys etc) DW makes it very easy to accomplish and provides CONSISTANT
and WORKING code, which is something that beginning web builders have a
hard time with. Even if you are set on doing hand code, do it with a
coding editor such as Dreamweaver - the color coding, line numbers etc
make it much easier to debug

I would at ALL COSTS -- stay away from Front Page -- the code that it
produces is HORRIBLE.

I can agree that you may want autocomplete and color coding, maybe
even a gui preview but in that case (on Windows) use Notepadd++,
Firefox, and ALT+TAB. If you start in a GUI editor it tends to make
you lazy conseqently causes you to create bad sites. Its much more to
your advantage to RTFM and not take shortcuts.

-Mike

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