Paul Hartman wrote:
> gOn Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 4:01 PM, Dale <rdalek1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>   
>> I sort of covered this a while ago but in a nutshell, when I send a
>> email to this list, I don't get a copy back.  I have a copy in my sent
>> box but not a copy that comes back from the list.  I view this list
>> threaded so it can confuse me if I forget to copy a message back.
>> Someone could reply to my message and me not even know it was me they
>> responded too.
>>     
>
> I know of two 100% sure ways to do this, and one possible way.
>
> 1. Use the web-based interface. My sent emails on this list show up in
> the thread where they belong. I know, I know. :)
>   

I'm on dial-up and gmail doesn't like my slow connection.  I get at
least one error pop up on every page.  This is not a option for me at least.

> 2. Use IMAP and utilize gmail's labels. For instance, I have a filter
> set up to apply the "gentoo" label to anything on this list and skip
> the inbox. In Thunderbird, the "gentoo" label shows up as a folder
> under my gmail account. All new messages from the list show up there,
> and my sent mail does as well. When I click that folder in
> Thunderbird, I can see the threaded view of all messages on this list
> -- including my own.
>   

I looked into IMAP a couple times and didn't like that either.  I use
folders and sort my mail that way.  I have a folder for each gentoo
mailing list I subscribe to, my friends, companies I do business with. 
My filters sort them as they come in.  It works and I like it this way.

> 3. If IMAP is not an option and you must use POP, perhaps you can set
> up a filter on gmail to move your sent mail to the inbox, or set up
> your e-mail client to BCC yourself on every sent message.
>   

I have not tried the BCC option.  I'm about to try that now tho.  ;-) 

>   
>> On the spam thing, I use POP access so I don't want any spam filtering.
>> I do that on my end plus I used to get a LOT of false positives.  Right
>> now, I check via web mail and tell it NONE of what it thinks is spam is
>> actually spam.  It may mess up their filters but it is starting to send
>> them to me so it is working a little at least.
>>     
>
> You can disable spam filtering. Set up a filter to catch all of your
> e-mail and use the "Never send it to Spam" option. I am on mailing
> lists that deal with spam and phishing, probably the majority of the
> messages would go to spam without that feature. On the web interface,
> it even puts a little note next to the message that says something to
> the effect of "Gmail thinks this is spam, but because of your filter
> we've allowed it anyway".
>
> Good luck :)
>
> Paul
>
>
>   


I have searched the net, asked on this list a while back and nothing
disabled the spam filter on google.  I tried several different ways but
none of them stops google from marking them as spam.  I think they know
people are trying to disable it and they adjust to make it not work. 

I like gmail but those two things, spam filter and not getting copies
back, are really irritating.

I do wish there was a way for me to fix this tho.

Dale

:-)  :-) 

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