On Freitag 02 Oktober 2009, forgottenwizard wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 02, 2009 at 10:29:08AM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> > On Fri, 2 Oct 2009 03:52:24 -0500, forgottenwizard wrote:
> > > > Nano is not non-existent by default.
> > >
> > > It isn't always on the users sytem. Providing a non-existent default
> > > seems quite broken to me.
> >
> > That's true of every editor, so you have to choose the one that is most
> > likely to be there, the one that is installed for the stage tarballs and
> > is there unless the user has taken specific steps to remove it.
> 
> Or you could try to find a suitable default intelligently instead of
> blindly compiling in a default that may or may not exist. Worse still is
> blindly doing so without telling the user.
> 
> > > > A more sensible approach would be for the ebuild to check which
> > > > ebuild satisfies the virtual/editor dependency and set that. If the
> > > > OP really cared about this "problem" he'd investigate providing such
> > > > solutions instead of ranting about how Gentoo does not use his editor
> > > > of choice by default.
> > >
> > > The problem there would be if multiple editors provide virtual/editor
> > > (such as on my system, which has both vim and ed installed). The ebuild
> > > trying to automagically select what should be the default editor is a
> > > bad idea, if not just horrible.
> >
> > You can't have it both ways. You want the program to default to an editor
> > that is guaranteed to be there, at least at installation time, yet the
> > only one that satisfies that is virtual/editor. It's only a default, it
> > only has to be available the first time you run the program, whether
> > it's your favourite editor or not. If you only want to use default
> > configurations without making any changes to suit yourself, I suggest you
> > may be better served by a distro that is a little browner.
> 
> And if you, say, have two editors installed that satisfy virtual/editor?
> 

then the more sensible one should be used by default.

Lets see:
nano, built in help, easy to use, small, good enough for most edits.

vim, whatthefuckisthatcrap? how do I quit this monstrum? what happened now? 
MODES?

nano wins, hands down. Because every idiot can use it long enough to edit the 
files needed to make vim default.

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