I preferred Jonathan's wording, which was more succinct and included a 
Release Notes. It only lacked an Announcement link.

Also, can a nightly ever be considered stable/maintenance? Nightlies can 
have failing unit tests and cite tests. I wonder if we make these harder 
to find by leaving them off the front page?

Kind regards,
Ben.

On 17/04/14 01:25, Simone Giannecchini wrote:
> Dear All,
> I have taken the freedom to further modify the table that Jody put together.
>
> I have save locally the old layout in case we want to revert.
> We often say to people "get a nightly out of  a stable branch which
> should be safe" hence calling nightlies "development" sounded unfair and
> misleading to me.
>
>
> Regards,
> Simone Giannecchini
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> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 3:33 PM, Jody Garnett <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>     Fixed the two column layout, and added a download table into the mix
>     (against my better judgement):
>
>     I don't think links on the home page help all that much. It is fine
>     for GeoGit where there is one thing to download, since we have three
>     the text on the download page is kind of needed.
>
>     The download links and announcements do not give an indication that
>     they are "new" and thus do not appear exciting.
>
>     Making a static home page would be a good thing, as long as we pull
>     some live content in so you can tell at a glance that the project is
>     alive.
>
>     The map is important, as the first thing I see people do is zoom in
>     and try and evaluate rendering quality :) With that in mind a
>     rolling banner of pretty maps would be more useful then the dynamic
>     map we have today.
>
>
>     Jody Garnett
>
>
>     On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 11:05 PM, Justin Deoliveira
>     <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>         Agreed that the home page needs work. Actually a few weeks back
>         I started putting together a static home page with the intent of
>         replacing the current site with one hosted by github pages. As
>         part of that I wanted to revisit the layout of the home page.
>
>         My thought re downloads was to replace the big Download button
>         in the upper right hand corner with something that made better
>         utilization of space. Rather than have one big download button
>         have that space contain 3 little buttons labeled "Stable",
>         "Latest", "Nightly". And I guess now "Maintenance".
>
>         This thread does bring up the interesting thought about what
>         should be prominent on the home page. I do think a live map
>         backed by a real GeoServer is a good thing. Perhaps just less
>         prominent makes sense.
>
>         Anyways, perhaps I will try to finalize my initial home page
>         re-organization so that I can send out a mock up for people to
>         ingest. Just have to find the time...
>
>
>         On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 4:16 AM, Frank Gasdorf
>         <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>             Jody, totally agree, the landing-page got messed up.
>
>             Its a mix up of Events, Supporter-Thanks,
>             Commercials/Suggestions and repeated content from e.g.
>             download page. I don't see the benefit of having the table
>             of "Most recent releases" at top of it. In addition to that
>             point the download-page could have some indicator icons from
>             the build-boxes (Jenkins widgets). Having this in mind it
>             would also be worth at the download-page to show activity in
>             general, maybe take from ohloh
>             http://www.ohloh.net/p/geoserver/widgets
>
>             I like the idea of having a twitter feed/ blog role with
>             headlines on the right side, down below the browse section
>             followed by icons of upcoming events.
>
>             I'm bit confused about the OSM Map in the middle as well
>             (what is it for and which content is served (maybe it should
>             be the users-map ???))
>
>             - Frank
>
>
>
>
>             2014-04-16 11:56 GMT+02:00 Jonathan Moules
>             <[email protected]
>             <mailto:[email protected]>>:
>
>                 Hi,
>                 I quite like it and agree with Andrea's suggestion of
>                 having a link to the nightly too.
>
>                 However I'd suggest changing the way it is presented
>                 slightly. Currently all four boxes are the same size and
>                 have the same amount of text in (exact same number of
>                 characters!), even though the text is slightly
>                 different. This makes it a little harder to intuitively
>                 grab stuff.
>                 Instead I'd suggest a format like:
>
>                 Inline images 1
>
>                 At the very least making the download visually disparate
>                 from the release notes.
>
>                 Cheers,
>                 Jonathan
>
>
>                 On 16 April 2014 10:24, Simone Giannecchini
>                 <[email protected]
>                 <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>                     Ciao Jody,
>                     I disagree, I have got people complaining multiple
>                     times in the past
>                     to be in troubles understanding what to download
>                     from where, for
>                     stable releases but also for nightlies (especially
>                     for them).
>
>                     Having a clear indication of the available downloads
>                     on the home page
>                     is much more important than a map with some OSM data
>                     (at least IMHO :)
>                     ).
>
>                     Regards,
>                     Simone Giannecchini
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>                     http://goo.gl/fES3aK
>                     for more information.
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>
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>                     @simogeo
>                     Founder/Director
>
>                     GeoSolutions S.A.S.
>                     Via Poggio alle Viti 1187
>                     55054  Massarosa (LU)
>                     Italy
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>
>                     -------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>                     On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Jody Garnett
>                     <[email protected]
>                     <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>                      > The home page seems messed up, we have lost our
>                     two column layout. Really we
>                      > are now just reproducing the download page and I
>                     do not see the value.
>                      >
>                      > The goal of this is to show the project is alive
>                     and releasing software, any
>                      > chance we can get the latest entry from our blog
>                     instead?
>                      >
>                      > Jody Garnett
>                      >
>                      >
>                      > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 5:07 PM, Ben Caradoc-Davies
>                      > <[email protected]> wrote:
>                      >>
>                      >> I have put a small table at the top of the
>                     homepage to list both stable
>                      >> and maintenance recent releases and announcements:
>                      >> http://geoserver.org/display/GEOS/Welcome
>                      >>
>                      >> Is this an improvement (to encourage older 2.4.x
>                     users to upgrade) or a
>                      >> regression (might tempt new users to to 2.4.x
>                     rather than 2.5.x)?
>                      >>
>                      >> Kind regards,
>                      >>
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>                      >> CSIRO Earth Science and Resource Engineering
>                      >> Australian Resources Research Centre
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