Message: 5
Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2013 13:32:52 -0500
From: Justin Lemkul <jalem...@vt.edu>
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Analysis tools and triclinic boxes
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users <gmx-users@gromacs.org>
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Hi Justin,

Thanks for the response. My question was prompted by line 243 in
gmx_cluster.c which states "/* Should use pbc_dx when analysing multiple
molecueles,but the box is not stored for every frame.*/" I just wanted to
verify that analysis tools are written for any box shape.

Cheers,
Stephanie



On 11/4/13 1:29 PM, Stephanie Teich-McGoldrick wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> I am using gromacs 4.6.3 with a triclinic box. Based on the manual and
mail
> list, it is my understanding that the default box shape in gromacs in a
> triclinic box. Can I assume that all the analysis tools also work for a
> triclinic box.
>

All analysis tools should work correctly for all box types.  Is there a
specific
issue you are having, or just speculation?

-Justin

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>    3. Group protein not found in indexfile (Steve Seibold)
>    4. Re: Group protein not found in indexfile (Justin Lemkul)
>    5. Re: Analysis tools and triclinic boxes (Justin Lemkul)
>    6. Re: TFE-water simulation (Archana Sonawani-Jagtap)
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> Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2013 17:05:36 +0100
> From: Mark Abraham <mark.j.abra...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Re: Installation Gromacs 4.5.7 on rocluster
>         cluster with centos 6.0
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> On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 12:01 PM, bharat gupta <bharat.85.m...@gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am trying to install gromacs 4.5.7 on rocks cluster(6.0) and it works
> > fine till .configure command, but I am getting error at the make command
> :-
> >
> > Error:
> > ====================
> > [root@cluster gromacs-4.5.7]# make
> >
>
> These is no need to run make as root - doing so guarantees you have almost
> no knowledge of the final state of your entire machine.
>
>
> > /bin/sh ./config.status --recheck
> > running CONFIG_SHELL=/bin/sh /bin/sh ./configure  --enable-mpi
> > LDFLAGS=-L/opt/rocks/lib CPPFLAGS=-I/opt/rocks/include  --no-create
> > --no-recursion
> > checking build system type... x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu
> > checking host system type... x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu
> > ./configure: line 2050: syntax error near unexpected token `tar-ustar'
> > ./configure: line 2050: `AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE(tar-ustar)'
> > make: *** [config.status] Error 2
> >
>
> Looks like the system has an archaic autotools setup. Probably you can
> comment out the line with tar-ustar from the original configure script, or
> remove tar-ustar. Or use the CMake build.
>
>
> >
> >
> > I have another query regarding the gromacs that comes with the Rocks
> > cluster distribution. The mdrun of that gromacs has been complied without
> > mpi option. How can I recomplie with mpi option. As I need the .configure
> > file which is not there in the installed gromacs folder of the rocks
> > cluster ...
> >
>
> The 4.5-era GROMACS installation instructions are up on the website.
> Whatever's distributed with Rocks is more-or-less irrelevant.
>
> Mark
>
>
> >
> >
> > Thanks in advance for help
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards
> > ------------
> > Bharat
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2013 11:29:43 -0700
> From: Stephanie Teich-McGoldrick <stephani...@gmail.com>
> Subject: [gmx-users] Analysis tools and triclinic boxes
> To: gmx-users@gromacs.org
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>
> Dear all,
>
> I am using gromacs 4.6.3 with a triclinic box. Based on the manual and mail
> list, it is my understanding that the default box shape in gromacs in a
> triclinic box. Can I assume that all the analysis tools also work for a
> triclinic box.
>
> Cheers,
> Stephanie
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2013 10:29:06 -0800 (PST)
> From: Steve Seibold <steve...@ymail.com>
> Subject: [gmx-users] Group protein not found in indexfile
> To: gmx-users@gromacs.org
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>
> Hello
> I am just trying to do a simple MD on a dimmer system (in which the
> dimmers are NOT identical). I can use pdb2gmx to create a topology file and
> four .itp files:::: pores.chainA.itp, pores.chainX.itp;
> system.Protein.chainA.itp and system.Protein.chainX.itp.
>
> When I use grompp  however, I get a fatal error “Group protein not found
> in index file. Maybe you have non-default groups in  your .mdp file,  while
> not using ‘-n’ option in grompp”
>
> I’ve looked up this error on-line but I don’t see people getting this
> error when using multiple chains. I only have protein present and nothing
>  else. I am obviously doing something incorrect.
>
> I would greatly appreciate any comments that would help me..
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2013 13:32:22 -0500
> From: Justin Lemkul <jalem...@vt.edu>
> Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Group protein not found in indexfile
> To: Discussion list for GROMACS users <gmx-users@gromacs.org>
> Message-ID: <5277e836.6050...@vt.edu>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>
>
>
> On 11/4/13 1:29 PM, Steve Seibold wrote:
> > Hello
> > I am just trying to do a simple MD on a dimmer system (in which the
> dimmers are NOT identical). I can use pdb2gmx to create a topology file and
> four .itp files:::: pores.chainA.itp, pores.chainX.itp;
> system.Protein.chainA.itp and system.Protein.chainX.itp.
> >
> > When I use grompp  however, I get a fatal error “Group protein not found
> in index file. Maybe you have non-default groups in  your .mdp file,  while
> not using ‘-n’ option in grompp”
> >
> > I’ve looked up this error on-line but I don’t see people getting this
> error when using multiple chains. I only have protein present and nothing
>  else. I am obviously doing something incorrect.
> >
> > I would greatly appreciate any comments that would help me..
> >
>
> Please provide:
>
> 1. Your exact grompp command
> 2. Your full .mdp file
> 3. The gmxcheck output of the .ndx file
>
> -Justin
>
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>
> Justin A. Lemkul, Ph.D.
> Postdoctoral Fellow
>
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> School of Pharmacy
> Health Sciences Facility II, Room 601
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2013 13:32:52 -0500
> From: Justin Lemkul <jalem...@vt.edu>
> Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Analysis tools and triclinic boxes
> To: Discussion list for GROMACS users <gmx-users@gromacs.org>
> Message-ID: <5277e854.9000...@vt.edu>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
>
>
> On 11/4/13 1:29 PM, Stephanie Teich-McGoldrick wrote:
> > Dear all,
> >
> > I am using gromacs 4.6.3 with a triclinic box. Based on the manual and
> mail
> > list, it is my understanding that the default box shape in gromacs in a
> > triclinic box. Can I assume that all the analysis tools also work for a
> > triclinic box.
> >
>
> All analysis tools should work correctly for all box types.  Is there a
> specific
> issue you are having, or just speculation?
>
> -Justin
>
> --
> ==================================================
>
> Justin A. Lemkul, Ph.D.
> Postdoctoral Fellow
>
> Department of Pharmaceutical Sciences
> School of Pharmacy
> Health Sciences Facility II, Room 601
> University of Maryland, Baltimore
> 20 Penn St.
> Baltimore, MD 21201
>
> jalem...@outerbanks.umaryland.edu | (410) 706-7441
>
> ==================================================
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013 00:25:38 +0530
> From: Archana Sonawani-Jagtap <ask.arch...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [gmx-users] TFE-water simulation
> To: Discussion list for GROMACS users <gmx-users@gromacs.org>
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>
> Thanks Joao Henriques for helping me with the steps.
> On Nov 4, 2013 3:18 PM, "João Henriques" <joao.henriques.32...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hello Archana,
> >
> > I'm also toying with a TFE-water system, therefore I am also a newbie.
> This
> > is what I am doing, I hope it helps:
> >
> > 1) Since I'm using G54A7 I created a TFE.itp using GROMOS parameters (I
> > don't use PRODGR, see why in DOI: 10.1021/ci100335w).
> > 2) Do the math and check how many molecules of TFE you're going to need
> for
> > a given v/v TFE-water ratio and a given simulation box volume.
> > 3) Build box with the correct size.
> > 4) Randomly insert correct number of TFE molecules.
> > 5) Solvate.
> > 6) Insert protein.
> >
> > Hopefully, the amount of TFE and water molecules that will be deleted in
> > inserting the protein in the final step will be proportional, given that
> > the TFE molecules are well distributed.
> >
> > I've tried many different ways of doing this and it's always impossible
> to
> > maintain a perfect TFE-water ratio, no matter the order and manner of
> > insertion of each system component. I've also never been able to insert
> the
> > correct number of waters after the TFE. My calculations predict a higher
> > number, but the solvation algorithm can't find enough space for them.
> >
> > In sum, either you place each molecule by hand and you spend a life time
> > building the system, or you just make a few compromises and deal with
> it. I
> > ended up going with the former as I have a limited amount of time on my
> > hands and I am aware of the approximations I am doing.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > João Henriques
> > ------------------------------------------------
> > PhD student
> > Division of Theoretical Chemistry
> > Lund University
> > Lund, Sweden
> > ------------------------------------------------
> > joao.henriq...@teokem.lu.se
> > http://www.teokem.lu.se/~joaoh/
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 7:15 PM, Justin Lemkul <jalem...@vt.edu> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 10/24/13 1:13 PM, Archana Sonawani-Jagtap wrote:
> > >
> > >> Dear Justin,
> > >>
> > >> I have not constructed the system but I have downloaded it from ATB
> > >> website. To maintain the number of TFE and water molecules(1:1 v/v) in
> > the
> > >> system (I don't want to add extra water molecules) I tried many
> options
> > in
> > >> genbox but still it adds 678 water molecules. Can you provide me some
> > >> hint?
> > >>
> > >>
> > > Not without seeing your actual command(s).
> > >
> > >
> > >  Is their need to remove periodicity of this pre-equilibrated system as
> > in
> > >> case of lipids?
> > >>
> > >>
> > > No idea.  Are the molecules broken in the initial configuration?
> > >
> > > -Justin
> > >
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> > > Justin A. Lemkul, Ph.D.
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> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2013 11:25:32 -0800 (PST)
> From: Gianluca Interlandi <gianl...@u.washington.edu>
> Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Gentle heating with implicit solvent
> To: Discussion list for GROMACS users <gmx-users@gromacs.org>
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> Dear Mark,
>
> Sorry for replying to an older thread. We are trying to perform implicit
> solvent simulations of protein G with CHARMM27 in gromacs. We are trying
> to trouble shoot why the protein unfolds after already 2 ns of dynamics.
> We use simulated annealing for the heating with 1 fs time step. The
> thermostat is v_rescale and OBC is the GBSA algorithm. Do you have any
> suggestions what we could improve? You mention using a sub-fs time step
> for the equilibration. Do you still use LINCS? Do you use simulated
> annealing to heat up the system or do you just apply position restraints
> to the heavy atoms?
>
> Thanks,
>
>       Gianluca
>
> On Wed, 28 Aug 2013, Mark Abraham wrote:
>
> > It can be. Lack of explicit degrees of freedom of solvent can make
> > achieving equipartition tricky. With CHARMM27 and virtual sites in
> implicit
> > solvent, I have sometimes found it necessary to use a sub-femtosecond
> time
> > step at the start of equilibration, even where there were no atomic
> > clashes. Maybe the system was just unlucky with generating velocities,
> > though :-)
> >
> > Mark
> > On Aug 28, 2013 7:16 AM, "Gianluca Interlandi" <
> gianl...@u.washington.edu>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> How important is it to do gentle heating (using simulated annealing)
> with
> >> GBSA? Often with explicit water it is enough to perform some
> equilibration
> >> with positional restraints. Would it be enough to do the same with
> implicit
> >> solvent?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >>      Gianluca
> >>
> >> ------------------------------**-----------------------
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> >>
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