Jean-Claude (and anyone else) – All details at http://www.openscholarship.org/jcms/c_5414/membership best Keith
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Keith G Jeffery Director International Relations STFC --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The contents of this email are sent in confidence for the use of the intended recipient only. If you are not one of the intended recipients do not take action on it or show it to anyone else, but return this email to the sender and delete your copy of it The STFC telecommunications systems may be monitored in accordance with the policy available from <http://dlitd.dl.ac.uk/policy/monitoring/monitoring%20statement.htm>. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: goal-boun...@eprints.org [mailto:goal-boun...@eprints.org] On Behalf Of Jean-Claude Guédon Sent: 13 July 2012 14:42 To: goal@eprints.org Subject: [GOAL] Re: Chemistry and the Green Door Thank you, Keith. How does one join EOS by the way? Best, jc Le vendredi 13 juillet 2012 à 12:35 +0000, keith.jeff...@stfc.ac.uk<mailto:keith.jeff...@stfc.ac.uk> a écrit : Jean-Claude – As a Board member of EOS (and as an individual) I support fully (as you would expect) this direction of travel and am on board! Best Keith ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Keith G Jeffery Director International Relations STFC --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The contents of this email are sent in confidence for the use of the intended recipient only. If you are not one of the intended recipients do not take action on it or show it to anyone else, but return this email to the sender and delete your copy of it The STFC telecommunications systems may be monitored in accordance with the policy available from<http://dlitd.dl.ac.uk/policy/monitoring/monitoring%20statement.htm>. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: goal-boun...@eprints.org<mailto:goal-boun...@eprints.org> [mailto:goal-boun...@eprints.org] On Behalf Of Jean-Claude Guédon Sent: 13 July 2012 12:58 To: goal@eprints.org<mailto:goal@eprints.org> Subject: [GOAL] Re: Chemistry and the Green Door The discussion presently going on is divisive and not useful. Both Gold and Green are useful. Every little bit helps. Everybody is doing as well as he/she can, and we all know it is not enough. Let us at least trust each others' motives, please. Let us, therefore, go back to the basic idea of Peter, regarding the possibility of convening a high-level group of administrators of universities and research institutions. I would add high-level people from granting agencies; researchers should also be involved, especially those who, like Stuart Shieber, have managed getting faculty-initiated mandates. Such a meeting has never been done before. The BIOAI10 meeting in Budapest last February focused on broad strategies rather than concrete strategic moves. Stevan has mentioned the group "Enabling Open Scholarship" led by Bernard Rentier. First, Bernard is the perfect person to start the move toward a meeting of the kind suggested by Peter by virtue of his institutional standing. Perhaps this group is the right anchor for such a move. How can we join this group, or how can we work with it? We hear about it episodically, but nothing much seems to have come out of it so far. Would this not be the best occasion to really get this organization off the ground? The goal: convene a limited but high-power group of administrators and researchers to develop a policy aiming at effective, immediate implementation of the green road, and do so in a unified manner. The implementation details should constitute a major part of this meeting: we seem to know broadly what we want, but we have not yet fully agreed on the the means to make it 100% effective. If researchers are evaluated only from what is in repositories, they will deposit. Now, why are so few institutions ready to implement such a policy? Are funders of research really ready to apply similar rules to the evaluation of applicants? Questions like these should be at the centre of this meeting. The green road will have succeeded when researchers spontaneously turn to repositories to search the literature. We are very far from this and mandates are only one step in the right direction. The goal of this meeting is to build decisive momentum. Anyone on board? Jean-Claude Le vendredi 13 juillet 2012 à 10:00 +0200, Jan Velterop a écrit : If ever one needed an argument in favour of 'gold' OA, here it is. Jan On 13 Jul 2012, at 09:48, brent...@ulg.ac.be<mailto:brent...@ulg.ac.be> wrote: > > > Le 13 juil. 2012 à 09:32, Peter Murray-Rust > <pm...@cam.ac.uk<mailto:pm...@cam.ac.uk>> a écrit : > >> What is the percentage of full-text ACS papers pubished by Liege which are >> visible at time of publication? > > None, of course! > Just ask for an e-print when you are in thé ORBi web site and we'll send it > at once. 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