Jeanne Hromnik is based in South Africa. She should know. The co-author (R Mesthrie) of a book she wrote wrote this paper about Konkni-speakers in South Africa. But these may trace their origin to an area outside of Goa (not the Fernandeses or Desouzas that Gilbert refers too).
Kokni in Cape Town and the Sociolinguistics of Transnationalism Rajend Mesthrie <https://www.tandfonline.com/author/Mesthrie%2C+Rajend> , Sonal Kulkarni-Joshi <https://www.tandfonline.com/author/Kulkarni-Joshi%2C+Sonal> & Ruta Paradkar <https://www.tandfonline.com/author/Paradkar%2C+Ruta> Pages 73-97 | Published online: 12 Feb 2018 - Cite this article <https://www.tandfonline.com/action/showCitFormats?doi=10.1080%2F10228195.2017.1387168> - https://doi.org/10.1080/10228195.2017.1387168 - [image: CrossMark Logo]CrossMark <https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/10228195.2017.1387168#> [image: Sample our Language & Literature journals, sign in here to start your FREE access for 14 days] <https://www.tandfonline.com/action/clickThrough?id=5941&url=%2Fr%2Fsubjectsample-langlit&loc=%2Fdoi%2Fabs%2F10.1080%2F10228195.2017.1387168&pubId=51757624&placeholderId=1074&productId=1841> - References <https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/ref/10.1080/10228195.2017.1387168?scroll=top> - Citations <https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/citedby/10.1080/10228195.2017.1387168?scroll=top&needAccess=true> - Metrics <https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/metrics/10.1080/10228195.2017.1387168?scroll=top> - Reprints & Permissions <https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/permissions/10.1080/10228195.2017.1387168?scroll=top> - Read this article <https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/10228195.2017.1387168> ABSTRACT This article continues the initial documentary work on South African Kokni begun in Mesthrie, Kulkarni-Joshi and Paradkar (2016). The language (known as Konkani in India) has been in existence for over 125 years in South Africa, with Cape Town as its main base. We characterise the extent to which the language is still used and the social circumstances under which this takes place. We highlight historical research on the strong transnational mobility of older speakers in Cape Town and their keen awareness of village roots in India. Our investigations on the Konkan coast of India confirm the strong historical and linguistic links between the area and Cape Town. We present our preliminary findings on the dialect characteristics of the Cape Town variety, mainly in relation to morphological variation, based on our fieldwork of 2016–2017. There is initial support for the hypothesis that significant variation based on villages of origin persists well over a hundred years after the initial migrations. We conclude by addressing some dilemmas concerning language maintenance and shift. https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/10228195.2017.1387168#:~:text=The%20language%20(known%20as%20Konkani,under%20which%20this%20takes%20place . https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/10228195.2017.1387168#:~:text=The%20language%20(known%20as%20Konkani,under%20which%20this%20takes%20place. Here's another article on those folk: 125 yrs on, Kokni remains intact in South Africa https://www.dnaindia.com/india/report-125-yrs-on-kokni-remains-intact-in-south-africa-2652492 <https://www.dnaindia.com/india/report-125-yrs-on-kokni-remains-intact-in-south-africa-2652492> Apparently, Konkni means many different things in different parts of the globe. (Today, in Goa, it means, Konkani in the Devanagari script.) FN On Sun, 10 Mar 2024 at 12:07, 'Gilbert Lawrence' via The Goa Book Club < goa-book-c...@googlegroups.com> wrote: > Very recently, at my gym in USA, I met a charming South African. His > grandmother is Goan. His grandfather is French. He recounts meeting people > in South Africa who on intimate conversations recount their family tree has > a Fernandes or Desouza. > > The appearance of these individuals in now White or African. It is only in > their names and accents that I determine some degree of duality. It is > fascinating. > > While there is a yearning to identify their individual roots, there is no > yearning to socially connect with others with a similar history through an > association. The very educated friend of mine just does not know how his > grandparent landed in South Africa. > > Having written a chapter in our book about the Goan diaspora, there is one > community I do not have any information - Goans in South Africa. If any > reader of this post has news about this community, please connect. Thanks. > > Regards, > Gilbert Lawrence > Co-author: Insight into Colonial Goa > > -- > *** Please be polite and on-topic in your posts. *** > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "The Goa Book Club" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to goa-book-club+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/goa-book-club/800343238.1316194.1710025752637%40mail.yahoo.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/goa-book-club/800343238.1316194.1710025752637%40mail.yahoo.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . >
