I second this. On Jul 1, 2:17 pm, xcdesz <xcd...@gmail.com> wrote: > Ikai, > > I have read your post on using this bulkloader for java: > > http://ikaisays.com/2010/06/10/using-the-bulkloader-with-java-app-eng... > > However, without a Python background, this stuff is Latin to me.. Any > plans on making a java-friendly version of this Bulk Loader? > > I am one of the hundreds who starred issue 776 in the backlog, and > don't consider the current python-based bulkloader tool an adequate > solution to this problem. > > On Jun 30, 8:14 pm, "Ikai L (Google)" <ika...@google.com> wrote: > > > > > That was referring to the bulkloader, which lets you do those things. App > > Engine's datastore isn't a relational database. We can't do a dump of all > > your data without iterating through all of your indexes, then retrieving > > your Entities. > > > On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 4:02 PM, mscwd01 <mscw...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Thanks for replying Ikai. I assumed the "Datastore dump and restore > > > facility" on the roadmap was referring to an import/export tool - a > > > way for us to download the contents of the datastore for safekeeping > > > and restoring it if needs be? > > > Is this something different? > > > > Lastly, I would consider an import/export tool to be extremely useful > > > if not critical to most applications, surely there has been some plans > > > to offer one? > > > > On Jun 30, 7:57 pm, "Ikai L (Google)" <ika...@google.com> wrote: > > > > A web-based import/export tool is and was not ever on our roadmap: > > > > >http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/roadmap.html > > > > > The roadmap is not an all-inclusive list of features we plan to build, > > > but > > > > rather, a list of features we have high confidence will ship in the > > > upcoming > > > > 6 month timeframe. > > > > > You are absolutely welcome to build an open source web based > > > import/export > > > > tool for App Engine. Once you have done this, submit a request and we > > > will > > > > add it to the Open Source projects page: > > > > >http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine/web/google-app-engine... > > > > > On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 8:51 AM, mscwd01 <mscw...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Can I attempt to get the attention of a Google employee to ask "When > > > > > can we expect an in-built web based import/export tool for the GAE?" > > > > > > Thanks :P > > > > > > On Jun 30, 11:04 am, François Masurel <fm2...@mably.com> wrote: > > > > > > I dont think the bulkloader is really convenient for doing daily > > > > > > datastore backups of several gigabytes, and I'm not talking about > > > > > > exploding quotas. > > > > > > > I would rather prefer some kind of snapshot mechanism on datastore > > > > > > side. > > > > > > > François > > > > > > > On 29 juin, 20:40, Matthew Blain <matthew.bl...@google.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > The bulk loader does indeed provide backup and restore > > > functionality > > > > > > > today. While the implementation is in Python it can talk to your > > > Java > > > > > > > server and the entities are shared between Java and Python. > > > > > > > > On Jun 28, 4:46 pm, mscwd01 <mscw...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your replying guys, it would be great if we could get > > > an > > > > > > > > official Google response to update us on this as well though! > > > > > > > > > I'll definitely have a look at the Bulk Loader in the > > > > > > > > meantime... > > > > > > > > > On Jun 28, 1:52 pm, Mike Dillon <mikedillo...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Mscwd01, > > > > > > > > > > I'm not a google employee, but I have had success backing up > > > our > > > > > > > > > datastore and then restoring our datastore with > > > > > > > > > the bulkloader utility. Currently the bulkloader is in the > > > python > > > > > sdk, > > > > > > > > > so all you need to do is download that and then > > > > > > > > > youll be able to do backups and restore from those backups. > > > Check > > > > > out > > > > > > > > > the literature on the app engine, and try > > > > > > > > > a couple searches to get your bearings. Nick Johnson has > > > commented > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > written every search result that comes > > > > > > > > > back when I was researching this a couple of weeks back, and > > > there > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > also an I/O video on the bulkloader. > > > > > > > > > > Make sure you read some of the fine print, i.e. one caveat is > > > that > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > must have had your datastore populated for > > > > > > > > > at least 12 hours which is the amount of time it takes for the > > > > > > > > > statistics info to be built. That what the bulkloader > > > > > > > > > works off of to do its datastore dump. > > > > > > > > > > - Mike > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 28, 7:16 am, mscwd01 <mscw...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hey Google Employees, > > > > > > > > > > > There has been a backup/restore facility on the roadmap for > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > while > > > > > > > > > > now. Can you let us know if and when we may get an in-built > > > tool > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > will allow us to easily save the contents of the datastore > > > > > > > > > > to > > > our > > > > > > > > > > local machines and restore it if needs be? > > > > > > > > > > > In the meantime, what is the preferred solution to > > > backup/restore > > > > > our > > > > > > > > > > Java based apps? > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > -- > > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > Groups > > > > > "Google App Engine for Java" group. > > > > > To post to this group, send email to > > > > > google-appengine-j...@googlegroups.com. > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > > > google-appengine-java+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<google-appengine-java%2B > > > > > unsubscr...@googlegroups.com><google-appengine-java%2B > > > unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > > > > > . > > > > > For more options, visit this group at > > > > >http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-java?hl=en. > > > > > -- > > > > Ikai Lan > > > > Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine > > > > Blog:http://googleappengine.blogspot.com > > > > Twitter:http://twitter.com/app_engine > > > > Reddit:http://www.reddit.com/r/appengine > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > > "Google App Engine for Java" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to > > > google-appengine-j...@googlegroups.com. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > google-appengine-java+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<google-appengine-java%2B > > > unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > > > . > > > For more options, visit this group at > > >http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-java?hl=en. > > > -- > > Ikai Lan > > Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine > > Blog:http://googleappengine.blogspot.com > > Twitter:http://twitter.com/app_engine > > Reddit:http://www.reddit.com/r/appengine
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