Thats a good one that the *Tuhfatul Mujahideen *is the bible for SIMI!!!! Well, so much for expertise
2008/10/10 shinaj ps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > i have been following this "RAW paid journalist" for sometime, it is > interesting to see that he was a senior fellow at United States Institute of > Peace, US congress funded institute for conducting studies on jihad!!!! > in one of his article appeared in hindu (2or 3 months back), he was > describing how the SIMI activist are inspired by the book "Tuhfatul > Mujahideen" written by Zainudeen Makdoom. it is the only available material > on the struggle against Portugeese in Malabar written in Arabic; > unfortunately carried the most hated word "Mujahideen" in its tittle!!!! > Shinaj > 2008/10/10 Bobby Kunhu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Praveen Swami shoots off his mouth again. The latest opinion piece by this >> self-styled expert on terrorism is available on today's Hindu. The way he >> goes on about the Jamia encounter is as if its an eye-witness encounter. He >> sounds more like a spokesperson for the Police than a journalist. While >> talking about "terrorists", he drops the usual and basic journalistic >> courtesies like "alleged", "accused" etc and has already passed judgement. >> Its interesting how he has turned the tables on criticisms against the media >> for their coverage of the episode, in one stroke negating and rubbishing a >> range of acftors from the Delhi Union of Journalists to the Jamia Teachers >> Union to the three senior congress leaders who met the PM alarmed at the >> way the encounter was staged and have been urging for an inquiry. He starts >> with a Lewis Caroll quote that best fits his own article. >> I am sufferring from a bad flu and cold or I would have attempted a more >> systematic rebuttal of his piece for a wider audience (which is not difficul >> givent the shoddiness that has gone into this piece). I hope someone does it >> soon >> I hope friends from the Hindu in this forum need to tell this bloke to go >> do a refresher course in Journalism or on the other hand join the VHP as >> their spokesperson >> >> 2008/10/9 Bobby Kunhu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> Dear Gouri >>> Thats precisely why Praveen Swami is dangerous, because he comes across >>> polished and rounded. The fellow needs to be exposed. >>> Dear Venu >>> He is one of my personal blacklists as well. I usually ignore the kinds >>> of him wherever they may appear, but this was in a context that one was >>> forced to read this miscreant!!! >>> Warmly >>> >>> >>> 2008/10/9 venukm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> >>> >>>> Parveen Swamy has been around for quite some time with such theories >>>> on the intellectual communities' irresponsible sympathy with terror >>>> suspects and too much of demands for legal methods of combating >>>> terrorism on the part of State. I have learned to save time by not >>>> reading such stuff, whether it appears in the Hindu , EPW or wherever. >>>> Hope the same will be good for others too,if you please. >>>> >>>> On 9 Oct, 14:02, "damodar prasad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> > Reading praveen swamy, I think he is/has been specially corresponding >>>> for >>>> > IB. A classic case of embeddedness!! >>>> > >>>> > How and why should a journalist treat IB as a definite source without >>>> any >>>> > cross-checking or double checking!! >>>> > >>>> > On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 2:05 PM, ranju radha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> wrote: >>>> > > praveen swamy has been constantly engaged in demonising muslims via >>>> his >>>> > > propaganda stories. >>>> > > he seems to be the man in The Hindu to plant stories against muslim >>>> Other. >>>> > > so pathetic !! >>>> > >>>> > > On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 1:43 PM, Gouri Patwardhan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > >> what do you say about the article Bobby? Its such a smooth >>>> > >> story.perfectly detailed,rounded. Only in the end it makes a plea >>>> that >>>> > >> the Indian state does something to change minds of these mis guided >>>> > >> youth and bring them on the path of democracy.... >>>> > >> :) >>>> > >>>> > >> On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 11:58 AM, Bobby Kunhu < >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> > >> wrote: >>>> > >> > thehoot.org carried a piece today on Praveen Swami's article, I >>>> thought >>>> > >> it >>>> > >> > might be useful to post it in this thread >>>> > >>>> > >> >>>> http://thehoot.org/web/home/story.php?storyid=3364&pg=1&mod=1§ion. >>>> .. >>>> > >>>> > >> > Was he there? >>>> > >>>> > >> > Posted Wednesday, Oct 08 23:52:28, 2008 >>>> > >>>> > >> > The Hindu (Oct 4) carries an edit page article by Praveen Swami, >>>> titled >>>> > >> > 'Mapping the Indian Mujahideen'. It presents every minute detail >>>> on >>>> > >> Indian >>>> > >> > Mujahideen, its 'top operative' Atif Amin and how the whole thing >>>> works. >>>> > >> > (The first sentence reads, "Eight days before he was shot dead, >>>> top >>>> > >> Indian >>>> > >> > Mujahideen (IM) operative Atif Amin helped to draft the manifesto >>>> that >>>> > >> the >>>> > >> > terror group was to issue…") According to whom? There is no >>>> attribution >>>> > >> of >>>> > >> > any kind. >>>> > >>>> > >> > 2008/10/8 ranju radha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> > >>>> > >> >> dear all, >>>> > >>>> > >> >> i think there is a need to go beyond this. this may not be the >>>> first >>>> > >> and >>>> > >> >> last case. there s a need to form a group or cell to assist, >>>> guide and >>>> > >> >> provide professional legal aid to all such people who are being >>>> > >> harassed in >>>> > >> >> the name of caste, gender or religion. and what not. >>>> > >> >> professional legal help seems to be the need of the hour. As we >>>> dont >>>> > >> know >>>> > >> >> how to deal with such a situation legally. A Citizen Legal Cell >>>> shall >>>> > >> be >>>> > >> >> thought abt for the future. >>>> > >>>> > >> >> any one with legal backgroud can help us in this contxt. >>>> > >> >> Bobby can perhaps guide us in seeking such a possiblity. >>>> > >>>> > >> >> in solidarity >>>> > >>>> > >> >> On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 1:22 PM, venukm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > >> >>> Thanks Jenny, for sharing this piece. >>>> > >> >>> Even while we make many of our planned schedules upset and >>>> erratic, >>>> > >> >>> perhaps many of us cannot do without this kind of sharing.. >>>> > >> >>> Love, >>>> > >> >>> Venu. >>>> > >>>> > >> >>> On 7 Oct, 17:27, "jenny rowena" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> wrote: >>>> > >> >>> > Tehelka, Oct 11, 2008 >>>> > >>>> > >> >>> > *ALIENATED GENERATION* >>>> > >>>> > >> >>> > Nobody dare question our commitment to education and the >>>> Indian >>>> > >> >>> > Constitution >>>> > >>>> > >> >>> > *by Mushirul Hasan* >>>> > >>>> > >> >>> > THE EXTENT to which our society is getting polarised along >>>> religious >>>> > >> >>> > lines is very disturbing. If this is the state of affairs >>>> almost >>>> > >> seven >>>> > >> >>> > decades after independence, what might happen a few decades >>>> later? >>>> > >> >>> > This is not the time to attribute responsibility to different >>>> > >> parties >>>> > >> >>> > or communities. This is a moment of self-reflection; of >>>> trying to >>>> > >> find >>>> > >> >>> > out what gives rise to this mindless violence. >>>> > >>>> > >> >>> > The other very disquieting fact is how the electronic media >>>> and >>>> > >> >>> > sections of the Hindi print media have taken upon themselves >>>> the >>>> > >> >>> > responsibility of being the custodian of the nation's >>>> interest. The >>>> > >> >>> > arrogance and intolerance in their coverage reflects a very >>>> ominous >>>> > >> >>> > trend in the history of journalism. I have experienced this >>>> > >> recently. >>>> > >> >>> > The Jamia incident is not a big affair, it could have been >>>> easily >>>> > >> >>> > sorted out, but it was turned into a campaign against a >>>> university. >>>> > >> >>> > Our doors are open to non-Muslims; our teachers are drawn >>>> from all >>>> > >> >>> > communities. Compare our record with that of other so-called >>>> secular >>>> > >> >>> > universities where Muslims have limited access — Benaras >>>> Hindu >>>> > >> >>> > University, Allahabad University, Delhi University itself — >>>> then >>>> > >> what >>>> > >> >>> > are we questioning? >>>> > >>>> > >> >>> > A student at the London School of Economic (LSE) was nabbed >>>> very >>>> > >> >>> > recently by the police — does it mean that the LSE has become >>>> a >>>> > >> hotbed >>>> > >> >>> > of terrorism? This is senseless. I think we have to fight >>>> back. We >>>> > >> >>> > have tolerated this nonsense for far too long. We should take >>>> on the >>>> > >> >>> > media and demonstrate to the people that they are not >>>> trustworthy >>>> > >> and >>>> > >> >>> > are out to basically sensationalise events. Jamia Millia is >>>> being >>>> > >> seen >>>> > >> >>> > as the Muslim institution that it is not; it is a secular >>>> > >> institution >>>> > >> >>> > funded by the Central Government. The question of legal aid >>>> is not >>>> > >> >>> > being looked at from the perspective of a teacher's >>>> responsibility >>>> > >> to >>>> > >> >>> > her students. As the head of the institution, I feel I have >>>> an >>>> > >> >>> > obligation towards my students. And I am not using the >>>> taxpayer's >>>> > >> >>> > money for it. But the real issue is of principle. If this had >>>> > >> happened >>>> > >> >>> > to a non-Muslim student, I would have done the same. I am >>>> also >>>> > >> >>> > upholding the rule of law. Why have we forgotten the >>>> principle that >>>> > >> >>> > says that an accused is innocent until proven guilty? >>>> > >>>> > >> >>> > In the ultimate analysis, our society, which has gone through >>>> the >>>> > >> >>> > Khalistan movement and experienced terrorism in the >>>> Northeast, must >>>> > >> >>> > look at these incidents in a more cool-headed manner. Because >>>> you >>>> > >> >>> > can't fight it by reacting in a hysterical manner. Also, our >>>> police >>>> > >> is >>>> > >> >>> > becoming more politicised and communalised. We haven't >>>> reoriented >>>> > >> them >>>> > >> >>> > into becoming the custodians of the secular values enshrined >>>> in the >>>> > >> >>> > Constitution. Over the past 10 years, there has been a >>>> systematic >>>> > >> >>> > pattern — Deoband University, an institution with a glorious >>>> record, >>>> > >> >>> > has been targeted. So has Nadvat-ul-Ulema in Lucknow. Aligarh >>>> > >> >>> > University has always been targeted, despite its being a >>>> modern >>>> > >> >>> > institution with its doors open to all. Is there a pattern in >>>> this >>>> > >> >>> > madness? We need to reflect on these issues. The alienation >>>> is very >>>> > >> >>> > deep, and has to stop. But instead of supporting us, which >>>> would >>>> > >> also >>>> > >> >>> > mean supporting an institution committed to secular values, >>>> there >>>> > >> are >>>> > >> >>> > attempts to undermine our secular foundations. >>>> > >>>> > >> >>> > And now we are dealing with a younger generation of Muslims. >>>> I >>>> > >> believe >>>> > >> >>> > in a liberal, eclectic and pluralist idea of Islam, but I >>>> suspect >>>> > >> this >>>> > >> >>> > vision will not be shared by those who are feeling insecure >>>> and >>>> > >> >>> > excluded, socially and culturally. Why have the guilty in >>>> Gujarat >>>> > >> not >>>> > >> >>> > been punished? Why? Why? Why is the VHP and Bajrang Dal not >>>> banned >>>> > >> for >>>> > >> >>> > killing innocent Christians and desecrating their churches? >>>> > >>>> > >> >>> > I regard myself, as do millions of others, as part of the >>>> edifice >>>> > >> that >>>> > >> >>> > is called India. The idea of India is my idea. There is no >>>> India >>>> > >> >>> > without me, and I will not let that change. We have already >>>> taken >>>> > >> >>> > certain steps to counter subversive ideas that might fracture >>>> our >>>> > >> >>> > secular society. I appeal to civil society and the media to >>>> let us >>>> > >> >>> > live in peace, and get on with our simple and innocent job — >>>> pursuit >>>> > >> >>> > of knowledge. There is a limit to what one can tolerate. >>>> Nobody dare >>>> > >> >>> > question our commitment to education, and our loyalty to the >>>> Indian >>>> > >> >>> > Constitution. >>>> > >>>> > >> >>> > (Hasan is Vice-Chancellor, Jamia Millia Islamia, New Delhi) >>>> > >> >>> > From Tehelka Magazine, Vol 5, Issue 40, Dated Oct 11, 2008 >>>> > >>>> > >> >>> > On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 8:41 AM, Shahina KK < >>>> > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> > >> >>> > wrote: >>>> > >> >>> > > Dear friends, >>>> > >> >>> > > I know this is a belated post. Infact I was taking time to >>>> shrugg >>>> > >> off >>>> > >> >>> > > the >>>> > >> >>> > > bewilderment,anguish and scare through which I had been >>>> passing >>>> > >> for >>>> > >> >>> > > the last >>>> > >> >>> > > three weeks.The article I wrote in the hoot.org caused me >>>> trouble >>>> > >> and >>>> > >> >>> > > trouble only.I hope some of you might have been aware of >>>> that.In >>>> > >> the >>>> > >> >>> > > following article-*SHIVER… DOWN THE SPINE-* I am trying to >>>> > >> summarise >>>> > >> >>> > > the >>>> > >> >>> > > whole episode. >>>> > >> >>> > > Hindustan Thimes on today has carried a trimmed version of >>>> this >>>> > >> >>> > > article >>>> > >> >>> > > under the title 'Your Religion follows You'. >>>> > >>>> > >> >>>> http://www.hindustantimes.com/StoryPage/StoryPage.aspx?sectionName=Ho. >>>> .. >>>> > >>>> > >> >>> > > Shahina >>>> > >>>> > >> >>> > > *SHIVER… DOWN THE SPINE* >>>> > >>>> > >> >>> > > * **My tryst with the e-messengers of terror* >>>> > >>>> > >> >>> > > * * >>>> > >>>> > >> >>> > > *Shahina K K* >>>> > >>>> > >> >>> > > Since14th September 2008, writing has become a laborious >>>> exercise >>>> > >> for >>>> > >> >>> > > me. >>>> > >> >>> > > It was all of a sudden that words turned heavy, staring at >>>> my own >>>> > >> >>> > > convictions, political thinking and journalistic vigor. It >>>> was on >>>> > >> a >>>> > >> >>> > > gloomy >>>> > >> >>> > > Sunday (the day after the bloody Saturday on which the life >>>> of >>>> > >> twenty >>>> > >> >>> > > odd >>>> > >> >>> > > people had been taken away by some body called Indian >>>> > >> Mujahideen)that >>>> > >> >>> > > things >>>> > >> >>> > > turned upside down. It's difficult to describe my terrible >>>> sense >>>> > >> of >>>> > >> >>> > > shock >>>> > >> >>> > > when it came to my notice that a part of >>>> > >>>> > ... >>>> > >>>> > read more » >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Bobby Kunhu http://community.eldis.org/myshkin/Blog/ >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Bobby Kunhu http://community.eldis.org/myshkin/Blog/ >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Shinaj.P.S >> University of Hyderabad >> Hyderabad-46 >> Mob:9440477143 >> >> >> >> -- Bobby Kunhu http://community.eldis.org/myshkin/Blog/ --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Green Youth Movement" group. To post to this group, send email to greenyouth@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/greenyouth?hl=en-GB -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
