Why is your solution less ridiculous than the one you are ridiculing?  Your
solution seems more complex in a situation where the components needed to
solve the problem are already in place.

I'm just curious- I love architecture discussions.

Thanks for indulging me,
Renee

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Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] WebServices future development???

In fact, my inclination would be to not try to implement web services
directly in MUMPS, but there still needs to be a mechanism for
communicating with whatever you do use to implement web services. Using
the TCP/IP as natively implemented in MUMPS isn't a very good solution.
I would much prefer to see a FIFO or some other mechanism for invoking
a C library capable of using JMS (say) to talk to the web service
implementation. But using HTTP implementedf in MUMPS to talk to another
box (or process) implementing wb services using HTTP is a little
ridiculous.



--- Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Web service was basically introduced as a standard to replace CORBA.
> 
> There's a lot more to it than just being XML.  It's a way to expose 
> procedures to 3rd parties without having to develop your own set of 
> protocols.  You expose your service via a WSDL (web service
> descriptor 
> language) document.  This lets the client know how to connect to your
> 
> service and what to expect in return.  There are two types of
> services -- 
> document and rpc.
> 
> Most languages have the necessary components to build servers and
> clients 
> from blocks of code that follow certain conventions.
> 
> I'm not sure if VistA would benefit from WS being implemented
> natively.  I 
> don't think the VA is pursuing XML development with MUMPS (although
> very 
> well suited to handle XML).  I think they've stopped development on
> their 
> XML parser.
> 
> It would probably be easier to expose services through a supported 
> implementation, such as Tomcat/Axis and then connect to M for
> database access.
> 


A practical man is a man who practices the errors of his forefathers.
--Benjamin Disraeli
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