I agree. Most vendors don't pay much attention to the existence of MUMPS in their marketing literature. But that's a different issue: my point was that it's necessary to go beyond anecdotal evidence if you want to make rigorous claims about which type of system is faster. From a practical point of view, anecdotal evidence (It worked for me), may be just fine, but it doesn't really answer the kinds of questions a scientific analysis would need to address.

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On Jun 11, 2005, at 8:43 PM, Chris Richardson wrote:

Greg;

I am pointing out that the vendors do not publish such figures because the outcomes are attocious for comparisions with other technologies they hope to supress. The paper was published over 5 years ago and I am a bit hazy on the specific figures, but those figures and the testing constraints were published. These results are correct in the magnetudes, but I am a bit hazy on the details. But if someone else might have that article, we might
put it up on hardhats for review.

Also remember that the MUG Quarterly was a user group publication and not
the IEEE.  I think that it is a sad state when the vendors can't put
together a reasonable set of benchmarks to let the truth be known. Also remember that Kaiser in Northern California just stopped a ten year project to install Oracle in favor of another MUMPS solution. Southern California Kaiser never changed off of MUMPS technology. Hard to beat the ecconomies
of scale.




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