Couldn't such a test be done with one of the opensource relational databases? No contracts there...
Kevin --- Chris Richardson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Greg; > > What I was saying is that the type of study you > are talking about can > probably never be done because; > 1) The study you are asking for costs money, (the > money has to come from > somewhere), > 2) Vendors won't spend the money because they know > the outcome, > 3) Legally running such a suite of test puts you at > risk for breach of > contract with the vendor's code if you try to > publish the outcome.. Others > have done these benchmarks, but they are constrained > from publishing the > results by their user contracts. > > Perhaps there is a user community out there who will > fund such a benchmark > or construct a compute-off competition?? > > So we are stuck with anecdotal evidence and personal > experience and actual > satisfaction of the end customer (after all, isn't > this last item what we > are all working towards?). Let me tell you, if I am > on the table of an > Emergency Room, I don't want the excuses I hear > complaints about a slow > system. I want the best decision possible based of > the most complete > medical record my doctor can get. Thus far > MUMPS-based systems continue to > perform with up-time, reliability, speed, > adaptability, over-all cost, and > just getting the job done. If a fraction of the > money thrown at other > solutions could be spent of new MUMPS development, > imagine what could be > done. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gregory Woodhouse" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net> > Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 6:04 AM > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] == VistaWeb Missing > Apps == > > > > I agree. Most vendors don't pay much attention to > the existence of > > MUMPS in their marketing literature. But that's a > different issue: my > > point was that it's necessary to go beyond > anecdotal evidence if you > > want to make rigorous claims about which type of > system is faster. > > From a practical point of view, anecdotal > evidence (It worked for > > me), may be just fine, but it doesn't really > answer the kinds of > > questions a scientific analysis would need to > address. > > > > === > > Gregory Woodhouse > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > "The whole of science is nothing more than a > refinement > > of everyday thinking." -- Albert Einstein > > > > > > On Jun 11, 2005, at 8:43 PM, Chris Richardson > wrote: > > > > > Greg; > > > > > > I am pointing out that the vendors do not > publish such figures > > > because > > > the outcomes are attocious for comparisions with > other technologies > > > they > > > hope to supress. The paper was published over 5 > years ago and I am > > > a bit > > > hazy on the specific figures, but those figures > and the testing > > > constraints > > > were published. These results are correct in > the magnetudes, but I > > > am a bit > > > hazy on the details. But if someone else might > have that article, > > > we might > > > put it up on hardhats for review. > > > > > > Also remember that the MUG Quarterly was a > user group > > > publication and not > > > the IEEE. I think that it is a sad state when > the vendors can't put > > > together a reasonable set of benchmarks to let > the truth be known. > > > Also > > > remember that Kaiser in Northern California just > stopped a ten year > > > project > > > to install Oracle in favor of another MUMPS > solution. 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